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  1. #311
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I still think they should either remove the durability system entirely, or make it a lot more interesting than it is now. I have no idea how they'd do that, but yeah.

    The easy solution to the problem in this thread is of course to just train yourself to always repair before you queue up for any duties.
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  2. #312
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 89
    I think giving crafters back the ability to repair other player's gear would be the least contentious solution. (Does anyone know the reason this was removed?)
    Anyone who feels disinclined to help can simply keep quiet and let the person take their 'punishment', while the rest of us would be able to lend a hand so the group can finish the instance in a timely manner.
    Maybe it's because I main dps, but punishing someone by kicking them for broken gear and then having to wait for a replacement is a waste of time I'd rather not go through. It feels like I'm being punished too, especially considering I've probably already had to wait at least 20 mins in the queue.
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  3. #313
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    Rydia Stardust
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    I think giving crafters back the ability to repair other player's gear would be the least contentious solution. (
    This would be a proper solution. Simply design it so they can request a repair, same with a meld, and we can decide whether to complete the action using our dark matter. Dont need to set prices or anything like that, repair money is pocket change. But this would prevent a run from being stopped dead due to a simple mistake.

    On a side note, this is still a personal mistake. This is not SEs fault. This is yours. If your gear is broken then it is your choices that led to it. Take some responsibility. Im frankly disgusted by the amount of fingerpointing trying to get rid of personal responsibility. Grow the hell up. This is one responsibility that if, you are old enough to read/play, you are old enough to understand and control.
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  4. #314
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's called leveling your crafters. Once they're all at 50, you can repair your gear anywhere (even inside instances) outside battle for mere dark matter that easily purchasable with gil.
    How do you think is going to craft all those repair tools and mammets? :O

    Current system to self repair your gear is bad. As a paladin in order to repair all my gear I going to need: LTW, WVR, BSM, ARM and GSM (5 of 8 DOH). With my idea a crafter still can self repair his gear while at the same time he can sold those repair tools/mammet.

    Oh, and I'm leveling all DOH/DOL.
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  5. #315
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    Maple Taffy
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I quite like current system but it would be even better with bit of enhancement. I have all of DoH/DoL maxed but it would be nice if I can repair for member in the same dungeon or instance. You can be a hero for that moment and you don't have to abandon the party just because you have a tank/healer/dps with broken weapon/armour.
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  6. #316
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    Dont need to set prices or anything like that, repair money is pocket change.
    If SE were to allow other players to repair gear, they would need to set a price and it would need to be higher than a repair NPC. Otherwise people would just intentionally not repair their gear so someone else in the dungeon could repair it for them. Even if they weren't trying to dodge the cost it would also promote an more of an assumption that "someone will be able to repair it" and would cause problems if there wasn't.

    Realistically that money would have to go to the player doing the repair because although the repair items are relatively cheap, it's still a little extra hassle at having to go and top them up again faster than you would normally.

    Regarding the topic itself though, personally I think that's just a lot of extra work for SE to implement it when people simply need to just learn to check their own gear and if they don't want to do that, level their crafters, it's not hard. I've got my main and first alt character to 60 on all the crafts and a second alt character is around the 40's and going up still. It's just not that difficult.
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  7. #317
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    Worshipful Tyrant
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
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    On a side note, this is still a personal mistake. This is not SEs fault. This is yours. If your gear is broken then it is your choices that led to it. Take some responsibility. ...
    You know what? You're right! It is my fault if my gear breaks in duty, and I'm taking responsibility! It's my fault, and I should be accountable! But just for fun, let's punish everyone. Here's what happens: I'm just going to hang my head in shame and leave the duty--which I guess is what you think is fair. I'll go play cards for half an hour and then instantly requeue. Meanwhile the poor DPS might have had to abandon the duty outright. Hope they didn't wait for a replacement for too long before giving up, because they've still got a queue to sit through also. With any luck I'll still finish the duty before they do.

    So yeah: totally my fault, my responsibility. Great outcome, right?
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  8. #318
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Current system to self repair your gear is bad. As a paladin in order to repair all my gear I going to need: LTW, WVR, BSM, ARM and GSM (5 of 8 DOH).
    No it not, the current system is fine the way it is. Person needs the respective craft to repair the gear they want.
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    Last edited by Lexia; 02-10-2017 at 03:45 AM.

  9. #319
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    No it not, the current system is fine the way it is. Person needs the respective craft to repair the gear they want.
    Nope, you are wrong, the system if bad simple as that. Needing to level almost all DoH just to repair the gear of one job is insane. But anyway, tell me, what do you have against repairs tools crafted by DOH?
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  10. #320
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    Emstidor Diabolos
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Nope, you are wrong, the system if bad simple as that. Needing to level almost all DoH just to repair the gear of one job is insane. But anyway, tell me, what do you have against repairs tools crafted by DOH?
    It wouldn't matter. People like the OP are already complaining about the one inventory slot that dark matter would take up, so they still wouldn't buy a repair kit/mammet even if it was an option. And let's be honest, this entire issue started because some people don't care enough to keep their gear conditioned, so even if we added additional repair options, these are the exact type of players that wouldn't care enough to obtain them, then you're back at square 1.
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