"At the moment we are working to get rid of the gender lock for bunny suits for men."

[Lukha]

Adire, it's not your opinions that make you come across as bigoted, but rather the extraordinarily rude and aggressive why you seem to feel the need to express them in. If you'd take a break from huffing and puffing, you'd notice that quite a few people have expressed dissenting opinions in a civil manner, and been treated civilly in return; the reason you're finding yourself getting attacked is because you yourself came into the topic sounding like you were trying to pick a fight.


Also, I don't care if Raubahn's kilt is historically accurate, by today's standards if someone wore it, it would be considered a miniskirt, therefore it should be just as uncomfortable and immersion-breaking as a guy in a regular skirt (which would not look significantly different anyway), given that your argument against that was based on modern standards. You can't give two opposing arguments for things that are functionally the same without expecting people to poke holes in them.

Or is it just the name 'skirt' or 'dress' that you're hung up on? Would it help your immersion if they just called the skirts 'kilts', and the dresses 'robes' when equipped on male characters? I don't see the point when those things are basically the same, but if the more masculine nomenclature would help to ease your discomfort, I'll happily support it.



Though for the record, I'm not especially keen on skirts on guys myself; it's just not my aesthetic most of the time (I find shorts much sexier AND more practical on both genders). But I do want those fishnets very badly, and I want the same number of glamour options as female characters get.

It is funny, though, that male characters actually have plenty of skirts to choose from, and most of the female-only items are NOT ACTUALLY SKIRTS, isn't it? I think the Spring set is the only one, in fact, since the High House set has a direct, male-only equivalent.

[Greedalox]

The issue with trans people have with crossdressing largely boils down to dragshows and other media that feature dragqueens delegitimatizing the transgender identity, experience, and struggle

I hope this isn't a wide belief amongst the trans community. Drag Queens have played a massive role in the LGBTQ community as a whole, and it'd be terrible if they were tossed aside by "the most oppressed" members of the group because they didn't meet their narrative anymore.

Drag Queens =/= Cross Dressing =/= Transgendered. They're all seperate concepts.

[Fawkes]

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TOO. ITS THEIR GAME.

Careful, that door swings both ways.

[Rennies]

It's 2017 and we're still bothered by other peoples' dress choices.

[Rokke]

Careful, that door swings both ways.

For better or worse it will always swing both ways.
SE decided to give guys a bunny glam. SE also decided to not remove the native american costume.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's 2017 and we're still bothered by other peoples' dress choices.

In a video game, no less.

[NolLacnala]

I read a doujin like this, once

[Parisstilton]

I think it's a very sad reflection on society as a whole, that in a fantasy based video game we can maim and slaughter as many people as we care to, using any weapon imaginable and no one blinks an eye. Yet someone wants bunny ears and fish nets for their male character and all hell breaks loose...

[Remus]

I think it's a very sad reflection on society as a whole, that in a fantasy based video game we can maim and slaughter as many people as we care to, using any weapon imaginable and no one blinks an eye. Yet someone wants bunny ears and fish nets for their male character and all hell breaks loose...

There is a difference between someone holding a weapon and someone wearing something considered for female player characters... Some people will find it disturbing simple as. It may be fantasy based but people are still playing the game and i'm sure there are some people who wouldn't want to see something like that while they play their game.

[Parisstilton]

There is a difference between someone holding a weapon and someone wearing something considered for female player characters... Some people will find it disturbing simple as. It may be fantasy based but people are still playing the game and i'm sure there are some people who wouldn't want to see something like that while they play their game.

I'm sorry but it still baffles me how it is acceptable to some people to basically murder people in a game BECAUSE it's just a game but those same people can't see a male in a skirt BECAUSE it's just a game!
I mean if you can't break all the real life rules and do stuff you wouldn't in real life what's the point of a game in the first place?
This genuinely isn't a troll.I truly just want to understand how this can really bother people so much

[Nirokun]

There is a difference between someone holding a weapon and someone wearing something considered for female player characters... Some people will find it disturbing simple as. It may be fantasy based but people are still playing the game and i'm sure there are some people who wouldn't want to see something like that while they play their game.

We already have supposedly homosexual characters and Haurchefant is pretty open to everything (hue) in JP localization. FFXI had Mayakov, so it's not new for a Final Fantasy MMO to have more "eccentric" characters. Whether or "some people will find it disturbing", well, that's the game they're already playing.

Not everyone is "average" and it makes the game more interesting IMO.