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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    ignorant? I play wow without addon and tank without issue same with my gf as healer. Sorry but addon are for players who don't know how to play a class wait no "Who does not want to learn how to play there class" I find addon lazy at least the one that tell you how to play. I did not mind the other addon in wow it help out pretty good but there a few in wow that make you think like really? people don't know how to play?

    @Krausus not really in wow most raid make you use stuff like healbot and many other stuff and if there addon like gear score -.- then it going to become oh you don't have 450score sorry can't invite you to our "Free company" which i away thought even in ffxi. Oh you can't join our linkshell if you don't have good gear it's like if i had good gear why in hell would i join a endgame i guess it for the few ppl who level up more then 1class.

    But still that what happen in wow if you don't do good dps or have good gearscore you can't play with others. I hope if things like that happen SE would ban that type of addon.
    Dude, I can tell you haven't played recently, because nobody has used Gearscore since WoTLK. It's all about ilvl now.

    Cata has been designed with the use of add-ons in mind. You won't find any top raiders healing without a healing addon, because it's simply too inefficient. I don't use Healbot/Vuhdo because I'm a lazy healer. I use them because it is inefficient to manually click on the player frame, then click a key while targeting them when I can simply mouseover their name on an addon and heal using a combination of key presses. It is faster and I don't have to be targeting them, thus I can have the boss targeted to see when he is casting something.

    You don't seem to understand the use of addons, and you don't seem to even give them a fair try. You have gone into WoW with your mind made up that you hate it and the use of addons, thus you don't see any of the benefits.

    I find it highly ironic that you're saying addons make you lazy and you can play fine without them, but in actuality, you can't get into endgame raids because you're not doing high enough DPS. End game in WoW is competitive when it comes to securing a spot in a raid. If you can't do the DPS, why should the rest of the raid carry you through when they can get someone who actually is carrying their own weight?


    If you're really going to throw a fit because "We could have killed that 6 seconds faster!" then you need to re-evaluate why you play MMORPGs.
    Have fun with your 5 minute enrage timers where every second counts. The same held true in XI for certain bosses. Dynamis Lord easily comes to mind. RDM/DRKs having to stagger stun with their 2hr. Timing is key, and one slip up causes a full wipe. WoW's endgame is not like XI's old endgame where you sit around for hours waiting for a spawn, then spend the next 45 minutes slowly chipping away at the HNM's health. WoW bosses last between 2-10 minutes on average. It's much faster paced, therefore that 60 minute enrage timer, or whatever it was that they added in XI is like the 5 minute enrage in WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    Dude, I can tell you haven't played recently, because nobody has used Gearscore since WoTLK. It's all about ilvl now.

    Cata has been designed with the use of add-ons in mind. You won't find any top raiders healing without a healing addon, because it's simply too inefficient. I don't use Healbot/Vuhdo because I'm a lazy healer. I use them because it is inefficient to manually click on the player frame, then click a key while targeting them when I can simply mouseover their name on an addon and heal using a combination of key presses. It is faster and I don't have to be targeting them, thus I can have the boss targeted to see when he is casting something.

    You don't seem to understand the use of addons, and you don't seem to even give them a fair try. You have gone into WoW with your mind made up that you hate it and the use of addons, thus you don't see any of the benefits.

    I find it highly ironic that you're saying addons make you lazy and you can play fine without them, but in actuality, you can't get into endgame raids because you're not doing high enough DPS. End game in WoW is competitive when it comes to securing a spot in a raid. If you can't do the DPS, why should the rest of the raid carry you through when they can get someone who actually is carrying their own weight?



    Have fun with your 5 minute enrage timers where every second counts. The same held true in XI for certain bosses. Dynamis Lord easily comes to mind. RDM/DRKs having to stagger stun with their 2hr. Timing is key, and one slip up causes a full wipe. WoW's endgame is not like XI's old endgame where you sit around for hours waiting for a spawn, then spend the next 45 minutes slowly chipping away at the HNM's health. WoW bosses last between 2-10 minutes on average. It's much faster paced, therefore that 60 minute enrage timer, or whatever it was that they added in XI is like the 5 minute enrage in WoW.
    Ya i play a few month ago i know about ilvl i just call it gear score. I like how higher level spell went down and such but w/e

    Btw it's not always about DPS but i guess that switching over too more about DPS then just playing i played ffxi for years and everything was done fine without real big DPS but i guess it was without me knowing o.o. I see your point about the healbot it does make healing easy for others but i saw a few people doing fine without it. I don't really mind addon it just when you in a endgame and you have to use it or you be kicked it seem like it all become about addon and less about gameplay get what i mean?

    @Jinko: it look awesome talking about art style but really more interview and even the fact they adding dx11 i guess it wont be that bad but i'll still miss the old art style i guess i get use too it just love how the art style look nice. I guess i can get use to the new art style if they don't make it so western. All the nice redo of the areas would gone to waste if the art style look lame i mean if the old art style look better then the new and the areas look nice but the art style is not as good then it pretty much gone to waste.
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