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    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Losing 20 dollar without getting anything out of it just because of another person shouldn't happen.
    So it's SE's fault when people pick the wrong partners to do an EB with? Really?

    I'm really sick of all these demands for SE to fix problems that are entirely the players' fault.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    As someone who already has all the Platinum benefits, I believe that all of the items of the entire wedding should be available from the beginning, and the ceremony itself should be the only thing you wait for. Square Enix is basically stealing money from people when this garbage happens, and that is immoral. If I spend money on an item, I deserve the damn item.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    As someone who already has all the Platinum benefits, I believe that all of the items of the entire wedding should be available from the beginning, and the ceremony itself should be the only thing you wait for. Square Enix is basically stealing money from people when this garbage happens, and that is immoral. If I spend money on an item, I deserve the damn item.
    Then people wouldn't marry because they get everything before the wedding, making the wedding pointless. Why do the ceremony when you can just get your clothes, mount, ring, and call it a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Then people wouldn't marry because they get everything before the wedding, making the wedding pointless. Why do the ceremony when you can just get your clothes, mount, ring, and call it a day?
    :I Because it's a fun event to celebrate with your loved one and friends.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    :I Because it's a fun event to celebrate with your loved one and friends.
    Part of the ceremony includes those same items...

    Putting the rings on your fingers, getting bonded for real. Walking off with your partner on the chocobo.

    It wouldn't make sense to have all the marriage stuff, if you're not married.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
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    At most SE can give a refund but I believe somewhere it says asking for a refund can cause a ban? Or something..

    Asking for full service if someone bails would be terrible. Because it would be horribly abused. People would start the quest and "split" then cry to SE for free stuff. Unacceptable.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 02-03-2017 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    People would start the quest and "split" then cry to SE for free stuff. Unacceptable.
    How is it free stuff if you paid $20 for it?
    Personally, I think the best way would be to make it possible to abandon the quest which should automatically return the eternal bond bracelet to the state before you started the quest.
    That way, you still have what you paid for (the ability to start a ceremony with someone, including all the items and cutscenes and everything) and nobody has to get their panties in a bunch because someone got the items without the ceremony or anything^^

    The cut-off point would need to be the ceremony, so you can't do that and then abandon it and do it with someone else or something.
    To make sure it can't be abused, the clothes should only be given out once the ceremony starts as well (in the preparation room, for example?), and the bracelet has to become untradeable once you started the quest for the first time, otherwise you could get the clothes, abandon the quest, trade the bracelet to someone else so they can get their dress, and so on.
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    Last edited by Atoli; 02-03-2017 at 10:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    To make sure it can't be abused, the clothes should only be given out once the ceremony starts as well (in the preparation room, for example?) [...] otherwise you could get the clothes, abandon the quest, trade the bracelet to someone else so they can get their dress
    I agree with your proposed solution, but since we always have to imagine the resultant complaints from any changes I think that receiving the clothes at the time of the wedding itself will make it very hard to dye them decently in time, which is probably why they're given out earlier. I didn't decide what colour I wanted my suit until I'd played around with it for a while and then had to go and find the dye; this wouldn't have worked if I'd been on a tight deadline

    It's sad that we always have to think about how a minority will abuse anything that's added to the game.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Then people wouldn't marry because they get everything before the wedding, making the wedding pointless. Why do the ceremony when you can just get your clothes, mount, ring, and call it a day?
    I fail to see a real argument here. If people want to go through the ceremony, they will. If they just want the items, which they have PAID for, with REAL money, they should RECEIVE those items.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    I fail to see a real argument here. If people want to go through the ceremony, they will. If they just want the items, which they have PAID for, with REAL money, they should RECEIVE those items.
    Then instead there should be a separate package for just the items. Don't forget the ceremony itself is a part of that money. Not just the items.

    You didn't pay for the items you paid for a ceremony that gives you the items. You shouldn't get the items if you didn't do the ceremony. At most you should just get a refund.

    If you pay for an event that gives prizes and food, then last minute you cancel, you don't get the prizes and food mailed to you. You get a refund.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 02-03-2017 at 09:24 PM.

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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Then people wouldn't marry because they get everything before the wedding, making the wedding pointless. Why do the ceremony when you can just get your clothes, mount, ring, and call it a day?
    WHO CARES? It's not your $20. I give approximately zero beans who chooses to actually go through with a Ceremony of Eternal Bonding once the money is safely in Square Enix's hand. I don't feel like it "cheapens" my own Eternal Bond in any way, since tons of people meet up all the time in their FC, on Reddit, or even in the megathread on this very FORUM to go through the bond ceremony when their relationship is tepid, if not purely platonic, if not outright SYMBIOTIC at best. It only "means" whatever it means to the individual, and trying to attach your own definition to it is supercilious.

    It's insanely stupid that players can pay money for a service (BOTH players, mind you!), and one person arbitrarily canceling a previous arrangement means that NO ONE gets the goods. You can make all the analogies to real life weddings that you want, but the fact is that this is a video game and it's practically fraudulent that you can pay money for a service and wind up receiving absolutely nothing from that service in the end.
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