Request to unlock Hempen set styles

[Magic-Mal]

Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.

Think of it from a satisfaction point of view.

Ex. You have 600 customers. 590 want a thing. 10 don't. It's pretty obvious the Devs are going to do it for the 590.

If the minority is always considered, somethings just won't ever be done then. Like Alexander: Creator. If they listened to the "loyal players" instead of the majority we'd still have Gordias.

Finally, in response to Kosmos, you said that wasn't what you said and Kosmos is playing victim. But it certainly sounds like that's what you said. You said "They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority." That absolutely sounds like a jab at all the people supporting the unlocking. That they are not loyal customers and what to have it to have it. They don't care about the game like *true* loyal customers.

So I ask, what does glamour have to do with loyalty? Are we going to say people who don't want glamours unlocked are better, more loyal now?

That's what your post says..

[Sterre]

The races look different, yes. But that's as far as it goes with the differences between races, this game offers little to none content to bring out the uniqueness of each race. And while hempen sets might not be the best way to bring that out, at least it's something, at least it gives a little bit more uniqueness to each race. So, if hempen sets lose their race specific status, people who like the exclusivity of the sets, will only be left with the starter gear.

I'm also aware that not everyone cares the uniqueness of race specific gear but there are still many who do, and it would be sad to see it taken away.

But, again, this is a matter of opinion and everyone are free to have theirs. We just have to live with whatever decision dev. team decides to make.

[Fawkes]

While I'm not necessarily opposed to them adding more RSE, they would have their work cut out for them to make it actually make sense. You could probably create an outfit that was clearly tailored for miqo'te ears/aura horns/tails, but I'm not sure how you make a hyur RSE that makes sense only for hyurs to wear, and couldn't easily be imagined on other races. It would end up being something exclusive for the sake of being exclusive, which is what we already have and it doesn't make a lot of sense. If I can't imagine a good reason for my character to be unable to equip something, then I'm probably going to want to be able to equip it. Unless it's all ugly. Just ask for a bunch of really ugly RSE and I'll be totally fine with it staying exclusive.

[Ghastly]

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Also
Not just the majority

Don't the words also and not just the majority mean that they should listen to both sides? In the statement it doesn't say magic mal or anyone that wants hempen set isn't loyal. Keep that in mind
I was speaking for myself, I'm a loyal customer (not saying you're not), I want them to also consider me, not just the majority.

If people look for things to feel like a victim that's their problem. In the statement it doesn't say people that want hempen set are not loyal.

[Canadane]

How? Hempen sets are dirt cheap and common.

Caring about exclusivity means that the primary concern is not how you look to yourself, but how you look to others.
Hempen sets being as common as they are, exclusive means nothing as anyone can get them for less gill than it would take to teleport to a marketboard.

If you want to argue exclusivity, argue for racial relic glamours, an upgrade to the starter racial gear that would be both exclusive and uncommon for example. Maybe then you would have a leg to stand on. Otherwise the argument that it hurts you makes no sense.

You may misunderstand.
Not exclusive as in you cannot attain it, but exclusive looks to each race. We have so few racially locked gear, I count this as one of them. This is something I'd like to see stay.

How ?
You are not forced to use the others are you ?

Not forced, no. I think you may also misunderstand the argument. By giving people the option to use the other looks, we lose out the exclusivity of the look itself.

[Magic-Mal]

Not forced, no. I think you may also misunderstand the argument. By giving people the option to use the other looks, we lose out the exclusivity of the look itself.

In favor of a big addition to individual uniqueness. I don't know about you, but the Miqo'te top isn't special. Yes only Miqo'tes can wear it but every Miqo'te around looks the same for the sake of racial uniqueness? Like a job/school uniform, the users tend to dislike them and want to wear other things because they all look the same or don't like their outfit(Gold Saucer)

I'm sure most people wearing the clothes aren't thinking of uniqueness but instead are thinking "I like this shirt."

If you want uniqueness, why not sport your unique glamour 24/7?

Racial Uniqueness does nothing but stop people from being individually unique with their styles.

[Kosmos992k]

Read again, you're stating things I never said. You're reading what you want to read to feel like a victim (as you always do) when someone has s different viewpoint than yours.

No, I'm reading exactly what you wrote. Your post, in it's entirity reads;

Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.

You were replying "Me too!" to a post opposed to unlocking the hempen set styles. and you made two statements after that;

1) "They should consider loyal customers too." - the corollary of which is that they are not (in your opinion) considering loyal customers.

2) "Not just the majority." - From which follows, you are in the minority in this topic, my opinion clearly aligns with the majority of the replies in this topic. You are stating that SE should listen to the minority, as well as the majority (which in your previous statement you clearly identified as being other than "loyal customers.").

My reply asked what about loyal customers who agree with the majority opinion, you could simply have replied that yes, SE should listen to loyal customers in the majority and the minority - which they are already doing, having requested our feedback. Instead you accuse me of playing a victim card - which as far as I was aware was not even on the table.

I also asked if you are somehow supposing that only those opposed are loyal customers - which is exactly the implication of your two statements taken together. I was literally asking if that was what you were meaning, you could simply have responded with a correction.

I pointed out that I and my wife are both loyal customers by any definition, and asked whether we are considered "loyal customers" in the context of your post.

I see no victim status, except that thrust upon my by you. I see no answer to the points made in my post other than a denial of the words you actually wrote. I think your post was quite clear, and you didn't like being called out on it.

"They should consider loyal customers too. Not just the majority.

Pretty clear to me.

[Adire]

I support this.

And to everyone saying the sets should be race restricted because it defines the different races' cultures and whatnot....in case you haven't noticed, Eorzea is a melting pot of races and cultures. To see cultural diffusion happen would not be far fetched. You can see the results of the phenomenon in real life even. Including different cultures adopting clothing styles from each other.

[Ghastly]

I wrote the post, I know what it states. It clearly states that there are loyal customers against this change and they shouldn't only listen to the majority.
If you choose to feel like you're not loyal that's your problem. Nowhere does it say that if you're the majority that you're not loyal.

Again, you've shown a history of playing the victim to something that didn't involve you. You insert yourself into something you weren't a part of just so you can play the victim.

But hey keep it up, if you want me to call you not loyal I will so you can be happy. You're not a loyal customer. You got your answer, you can't do anything about it.

[Kosmos992k]

**snip**

You know, your post says what it says, people can read it for themselves. If you want to make this a confrontation, do it on your own.

It seems to me that you wish to provoke me into saying something that will get me banned, and I will not give you that satisfaction. Thank you and good day.