WAR damage is lacking

[shao32]

Paladin loses 15% and a 75 potency attack after every auto-attack while warrior loses 25% and fell cleave plus the 5% from deliverance. Paladin damage is weirdly high for the amount of mitigation they have.

for have a warrior on lvl 60 looks like you dont know nothing about the job, WAR have a skill name MAIM, this skill is part of you regular combos and increse all damage dealt by 20%, in defiance and maim up warrior only suffer a penalitation of -5% in the end, not a -25%, plus all skill that use wrath are not affect by the damage penalitation, paladin have a permanent -15% of damage penalitation without chance to reduce it in any way, so you argument is invalid.

read all you skills description and stop trolling, WAR is the best dps tank and have the best mitigation kit, no paladin or dark knight can match that for now.

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for have a warrior on lvl 60 looks like you dont know nothing about the job, WAR have a skill name MAIM, this skill is part of you regular combos and increse all damage dealt by 20%, in defiance and maim up warrior only suffer a penalitation of -5% in the end, not a -25%, plus all skill that use wrath are not affect by the damage penalitation, paladin have a permanent -15% of damage penalitation without chance to reduce it in any way, so you argument is invalid.

I'm not going to get involved in the original topic, but you're wrong about this. WAR and PLD both lose about the same percentage of DPS when you compare full DPS stance vs full tank stance, which means WAR loses more actual DPS since their numbers are actually higher (in my tests on SSS, PLD loses ~400 DPS and WAR loses ~500 DPS). Your point about Maim is irrelevant because it's also used in Deliverance and should have 100% uptime, so the damage gained from it is also reduced by Defiance. When WAR is in tank stance they have a 25% damage penalty, they lose the 5% damage buff from Deliverance, they lose 10% crit on every Fell Cleave/Decimate (and the effect of crit stacks on every other skill), and they lose 200 potency every time they use Inner Beast instead of Fell Cleave. Unchained makes up for a lot of that, but it doesn't stop WAR from having a higher DPS loss.

[shao32]

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i was arguing compared about the base job whitout stances going to tank stance, i know most actual WAR damage is based on fell cleave and bersek i do my test to, my point was WAR damage penalty is high but its just a shadow, bcs WAR dont need defiance for almost nothing, and the moment they need it they can switch back quick to deliverance, 10 seconds what are? 1 inner beast? plus they can ignore great part with unchained, just saying the op is making a drama bcs WAR dps is almost the same in defiance as a paladin i shield more when defiance is just a temporal status for pulls and the 0,1% of the conten you need to use inner beast, WAR have a lot of tools to keep they dps, he can get back the day WAR is force to stay in defiance 90% of the time.

sure i dont explain my self well in that post so sorry for that