All the big changes in 2013???!!!!!

[Betelgeuzah]

They said they could please current players while still making the game for 2013, but they can't. They haven't.

Who are you talking for? You sure as hell aren't a current player.

It's like SE just punched us in the stomach.

I'm not a particularly violent person but the people who played this game only "because it might get better later" needed that punch to get in touch with the reality. If you didn't like this game from the beginning why did you play it?

[Seif]

Who are you talking for? You sure as hell aren't a current player.



I'm not a particularly violent person but the people who played this game only "because it might get better later" needed that punch.

You especially.

Himself at least?

Both of you bring up an interesting point however. I think this will divide the player-base into active and non playing players. The people who have been content with the quantity and quality of the patches will keep playing while the others will quit or wait for 2013 to bring "the better XIV" around.

[Holland]

Himself at least?

Both of you bring up an interesting point however. I think this will divide the player-base into active and non playing players. The people who have been content with the quantity and quality of the patches will keep playing while the others will quit or wait for 2013 to bring "the better XIV" around.

You are putting it too black and white. People will still have the option to come back for 1.21 (jobs), 1.22 and 1.23 (Imperial Stronghold)

Edit: After all the quitting I think 1.21 (jobs) will see the major boost in population and depending on implementation and content the largest retention of players.

[ellohwell]

Who are you talking for? You sure as hell aren't a current player.

Speak for yourself. You don't play.

The lag is still prevalent. I end up spamming actions as much as ever (even before the combat update) due to the server lag. The dye system ruined a lot of the game. The crafting dumb down oversimplified crafting. The materia system is just a grind with a Korean RNG crafting system tacked onto it at the end for kicks.

They've made some headway, but it isn't enough. "You sure as hell aren't a current player."

If you didn't like this game from the beginning why did you play it?

Maybe you should ask SE that. They are brutalizing a lot of the original game concepts (such as non-instanced world).

[Betelgeuzah]

Speak for yourself. You don't play.

I do. You don't.

And you can't speak for those who do.

Maybe you should ask SE that. They are brutalizing a lot of the original game concepts (such as non-instanced world).

The game has never been "non-instanced".

[ellohwell]

The game has never been "non-instanced".

I'll just pretend you didn't embarrass yourself by pretending you play this game and that I don't and focus on your next point. It's true the game was never entirely uninstanced, but one of FFXIV's original philosophies was to keep players playing in the same world. I think that's what an MMO should be about. It should be a virtual world, not just an entrace lobby, nor a substrate to connect players. And whether or not FFXIV has a history of acheiving this concept, it was certainly a base philosophy. Yoshi is straying too far from this original philosophy.

And if you hated this philosophy "then why did you play this game to begin with?"

Oh that's right, you don't play it.

[Gramul]

I'll just pretend you didn't embarrass yourself by pretending you play this game and that I don't and focus on your next point. It's true the game was never entirely uninstanced, but one of FFXIV's original philosophies was to keep players playing in the same world. I think that's what an MMO should be about. It should be a virtual world, not just an entrace lobby, nor a substrate to connect players. And whether or not FFXIV has a history of acheiving this concept, it was certainly a base philosophy. Yoshi is straying too far from this original philosophy.

And if you hated this philosophy "then why did you play this game to begin with?"

Oh that's right, you don't play it.

Had they combined that philosophy with a world worth exploring in the first place, we probably wouldn't have have as many complaints as we did.

[ellohwell]

Had they combined that philosophy with a world worth exploring in the first place, we probably wouldn't have have as many complaints as we did.

I agree.

It's not the philosophy of FFXIV that was ever at fault though, merely it's implementation. And that's something Yoshi sometimes just doesn't get. He tries so hard to rebuild everything from the ground up when it would have been good enough just to fix what was there, especially as it concerns FFXIV's original philosophy.

[Betelgeuzah]

I'll just pretend you didn't embarrass yourself by pretending you play this game and that I don't and focus on your next point.

What makes you think I don't play this game?

You do realize I need to have an active account to post here, right? And I do, with certainly more levels under my belt than your joke of a character.

[Nero]

Speak for yourself. You don't play.

The lag is still prevalent. I end up spamming actions as much as ever (even before the combat update) due to the server lag. The dye system ruined a lot of the game. The crafting dumb down oversimplified crafting. The materia system is just a grind with a Korean RNG crafting system tacked onto it at the end for kicks.

i lol'd. Beside that you dont have a clue what you are talking about, you should stop try making your opinion a fact. Its obviously not. So basically get out of "Its true, cause i say so"-Mode.