what about a Primalized Ilberd like Ject from FF10? (yes my spelling sucks) 1 thing I have yet to see in-instance is a Primal(s) vs Primal I mean Ramuh's beast tribe is nearby (aside from Ultima beating Ifirit/Garuda/Titan silly) yes it would be semi-silly to fight fire with fire thus burning the planets Aether faster but u can't excact tell a hostile Primal summoner to not summon their Primal/God & have it fight this other Primal u'r dealing with (thou then u get the possibility of the "Victor" obsorbing the "Loser"... which just sounds worse)