Neighbor problems.

[Atoli]

...needless to say, I ended up getting one of those Adventurer house skins with an animated chimney that was almost 2x taller than my old chimney. Oops.

Or you could have just, you know, declined like a normal person, if you cared about your chimney so much? I really don't get why being horrible to your fellow neighbours is considered commendable in any way

When the house across the stream from my house got resold, first thing I did was find the new owner and ask him what kind of yard decorations he was planning on putting up.
Along with asking him to not use crazy glowing stuff if he wouldn't mind. He didn't mind, and now we have two beautiful, natural gardens next to the river
If he had said no though, there is absolutely nothing I could have done about it. And that's fine. It's a question, and unless it's something one cares about, I don't see any reason to keep inconveniencing the one asking.
But if it's something they care about, well, I'll just have to deal with it, that's how life works.
I just expect people to be mature enough to politely decline something they don't want instead of the "now more than ever" attitute of a defiant child by making everything as unbearable for someone else as possible...

[Sylfaein]

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There's a difference between reasonably talking to someone up front and asking if you can coordinate (though that's still rather presumptuous; we have to deal with HOAs and busy-body neighbors IRL, already), and demanding someone completely remove a decoration they've already paid for (and most likely not put something back in its place, because any chimney could be in the way). That's just a bratty, entitled mentality. If Chevronone wants a chimney he bought on the house he bought, he can have that chimney.

[Pyrali]

When the house across the stream from my house got resold, first thing I did was find the new owner and ask him what kind of yard decorations he was planning on putting up.
Along with asking him to not use crazy glowing stuff if he wouldn't mind..

Yikes that is presumptuous and annoying as hell, my dude. They probably only complied because they didn't want to listen to any whining about what they did with their yard that they bought and paid for themselves.

You sound like one of those people IRL who calls Bylaw when their neighbors do yard work they don't like.

[Atoli]

Yikes that is presumptuous and annoying as hell, my dude. They probably only complied because they didn't want to listen to any whining about what they did with their yard that they bought and paid for themselves.

You sound like one of those people IRL who calls Bylaw when their neighbors do yard work they don't like.

Who is the one full of presumptions now..?
It'not real life, you don't have to "fear" someone whining, you can just one-click blacklist them and never hear from them again. Most players just don't have any plans whatsoever in the first place, the want a house for the functionality (ability to plant stuff, etc.) and do not care about decorating. This wasn't any different, he said he really doesn't give a damn about the look and I am free to decorate it for him (which I didn't).

All I've done in this thread is promoting to TALK to people, not call GMs upon anyone, not terrorize them through obnoxious furniture. But you assume in rl I'm suddenly the type to do the opposite of what I promote here? Good jo on that leap of logic >.>

It might actually surprise you that I'm a great neighbour (both ingame and out) that is friends with everyone around, even my direct neighbour who's yard is just an atrocious explosion of anything glowy he could find and pile on each other. It's absolutely unbearable to see for me, so my only escape is to turn the camera towards the other direction whenever I'm outside, and, well, that's where the stream and the aforementioned new neighbour are. If he had had the same taste, I would have had no escape anymore.

I really don't understand the notion of "it's my property so I should bother everyone around me as much as possible!", neither irl nor ingame. Sure, you CAN, but it makes you kind of an a**hole, if you do it on purpose. If it's not something you actually care about, would it hurt you to do something to make life more pleasant for those around you?
This mentality is the reason why df is such a toxic place. Nobody thinks "Hey, maybe I should wear up-to-date gear and actually do my rotations right so this run goes fast and smoothly for everyone". It's more of a "lemme see how much I can slack off and inconvenience other players before they get so annoyed that they kick me, then continue to only do said bare minimum!" It's always just ME!ME!ME! without ever stopping and seeing how it affects the other people around >.>
And yes, of course I have my own preferences in mind too, but I'd never try to enforce them towards people who obviously have their own (like, I'd never ask my direct neighbour to tone down on the glowy stuff, because I know he cares about the look of his house and actually likes it), and I said time and again that turning down a request is fine too (like if I got asked to take down my chimney because they thought it wouldn't be a big deal, but I actually really like it, so I'll say no) - what I said is not fine is exactly one thing, and that's annoying someone else JUST BECAUSE THEY ASKED. That's so incredibly childish, how can an adult act so spiteful over nothing? And calling him a hero for doing that tells me more about this community than I wanted to know. It's the same as when people go "woohoo you are sooo amazing for not doing your job because someone else in your party doesn't do it either, so go ahead and make life hell for the other 2/6/22 players because we totally dig that!"

[Sylfaein]

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Somehow, we've gone from obnoxious neighbors telling you what to do with your house, to cruddy DF parties in one giant, nigh-incomprehensible ranting text wall.

Look:
Neighbor demanding dude not use a chimney because it's in his view? Jerk.
Dude upgrading to larger chimney to spite obnoxious neighbor? Hilarious. And justified.

[Atoli]

Look:
Neighbor demanding dude not use a chimney because it's in his view? Jerk.
Dude upgrading to larger chimney to spite obnoxious neighbor? Hilarious. And justified.

If more than 2 lines of text are too much of an effort to read for you, I'll make it simple:
Neighbour asking if it would be too much to not to use a chimney because it's in his view? Just a simple request you can turn down if you actually care about your chimney.
Dude upgrading to a larger chimney just to spite someone else who didn't hurt him in any way? A jerk.

[Sylfaein]

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Adorable, but no.

It's not that it's too much effort, it's that it's a rambling wall of angst about topics that wander far outside of housing. This thread is about people being obnoxious in the housing wards, not Duty Finder.

Moral of the story is that he who spends the money on the plot gets to decide what to do with it. I see decoration in the housing wards that boggles my mind as to who could find it attractive, but you know what I do? I IGNORE IT. It's not my property, and not my business. I'm not going to be the obnoxious busy-body neighbor, telling my neighbors that they can't have chimneys or glowing decorations. I focus on making my place pretty, and go on about my business.

If your neighbor's decorations are such a big deal to you, just buy a whole ward in 4.0. That way, everything can be nice and vanilla for you, and no neighbors have to worry about getting the in-game equivalent of a letter from the HOA.

[Chevronone]

Neighbour asking if it would be too much to not to use a chimney because it's in his view? Just a simple request you can turn down if you actually care about your chimney.
Dude upgrading to a larger chimney just to spite someone else who didn't hurt him in any way? A jerk.

Did you not read my post? I said they "demanded". There was no asking or conversation. If I were your neighbor and you "demanded" I not use too many glowing decorations, my lawn would literally be brighter than Las Vegas.

[Sylfaein]

Did you not read my post? I said they "demanded". There was no asking or conversation. If I were your neighbor and you "demanded" I not use too many glowing decorations, my lawn would literally be brighter than Las Vegas.

You know, I've actually considered doing a quick redeco project on my lawn to fill it with glowing things, and then taking a picture of my toon standing there, wearing shades and a smirk, just so I can post it in here.