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    I don't think this will fly but I don't see the harm of it. As long as we can opt out.
    Btw what did you do to some of these people to make them dislike you so? Citation please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alynn View Post
    I am just stating that if someone really wanted a partner, what is stopping them from posting? There's no shame in posting because it's service that is in high demand, and it isn't like anyone is going to go after them with a pitchfork unless they're up to some suspicious things.

    You don't even have to post on the thread. You can lurk and if someone catches your eye, send them Moogle Mail or /tell. If anything, I've seen more support than negative things from the thread.
    In essence, you're saying everybody views the world, see's the world, and performs in it's splendors the same, exact way as you do. And when someone decides to do something different, they're branded Suspicious.

    Unless I misunderstood what you're coming from, that is how I'm reading the statement you're presenting me. Contrary to what my argument said about everybody is different.






    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    This is all you should need. And character gender.

    Gender? Why? It's a video game.
    Age? Why? It's a video game.

    There should be no etc. Character race, time-zone and gender should be all you need. This game is not a dating website. The marriage thread was not created to be a dating thread. The OP says that in her first posts. This is a video game and the thread's popularity doesn't mean "Players want to date!". No it means players want to EB.

    You can ignore the age part. That's just a random bit to entice those who do not like the idea. Such as yourself.

    Tbh, Character race, time zone and gender should be fine. However don't you agree there should be a component that asks you this with a drop down box? "Gameplay: 1. "Forever Crafters!" "Let's do a dungeon run!" "We can Roleplay all day!" "I wan't to be friends." "Hardcore Raiding!" Etc. (Etc as I meant for it to mean whatever else of an idea you can think of. I do not literally mean an Etc. box to put in whatever you wan't).

    Let me ask you this, if for whatever reason you wanted to use the Match making system, but you don't want an EB out of it. Wouldn't you want to be able to be matched up with someone who has the same desire as you? Or would you rather go through the headaches of being paired and splitting up more than necessary.





    In all the system can be a mix of things, clearly the very few of you who decided to respond are getting the notions that this can be purely used for dating. (Given the rather blunt and short opening of my post) - Which is why, the idea shall grow no matter how negative the responses are.

    As I said previously this is a system that can be used for fun. And it doesn't have to purely be an alternative step towards EB.





    Truth to be told there is another thread lurking around the general discussion where players post to find a friend to play with.

    See this >>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=Friend <<<<<<<<<<<

    Why you may ask? Same reason as above, not everybody see's, live, and views the world as many of you do. And to ask someone to reform or assimilate into the culture you brought upon for others is out of the question.





    In a gist, instead of such a system having to deal with EB, or having hook up status or anything of the sorts. Let's have it have a plethora of options rather it's looking for someone to raid with, craft, have adventures, RP, EB and so forth.


    And I stress again, not everybody is interested in the way you'd want someone to make a friend. There are those who aren't interested in doing so with a group of friends, if so these players would being pushing towards the Free Company system. (As that's what it's for)




    Quote Originally Posted by Newmanxeno View Post
    Btw what did you do to some of these people to make them dislike you so? Citation please.

    That's their problem. Let's stay on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
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    Tbh I don't think it's up to SE, and shouldn't be up to SE to help people make friends with such a system when the game already has soooo many systems. Make A Friend/Marriage Megathreads are products of the community. They do their jobs just fine. We don't really need an in-game system. Because human interaction is not a system. That's up to the people. The Eternal Bonding is the system. Which is why I'd be okay with an Eternal Bonding Matchup system for people who want the items and go.

    In my opinion if you are trying to *just* have friends a player's gender shouldn't matter. That's what the Friend Megathread did right. It's a video game.

    As for your question, I wouldn't have a problem finding people who are interested in similar things. It's an MMO. Everyone has my main interest! Next step? Join and FC and talk to people. Pretty simple.

    TL;DR - The Megathreads are products of community interaction. Why take that away? "Dont fix what isnt broken" they say. Just get involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    TL;DR - The Megathreads are products of community interaction. Why take that away? "Dont fix what isnt broken" they say. Just get involved.
    I have to disagree with the way you're wording things. Taking it away? This is simply making a greater convenience built upon the concept of those threads and the feedback on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    I have to disagree with the way you're wording things. Taking it away? This is simply making a greater convenience built upon the concept of those threads and the feedback on this one.
    It could essentially take it away because there will now be an in-game system to do exactly what the people created on their own. Making their system useless. When things like that happen(official systems being created) the unofficial systems created by the people die out.

    Here's an example..

    Gilgamesh is the unofficial Raiding server. It was named and created by the community. If SE somehow made an official raiding server and it wasn't Gilgamesh, the people will leave for the new official server and the community created by the players would die.

    Same thing with Balmung, the unofficial RP server. The people created all of that. That's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    It could essentially take it away because there will now be an in-game system to do exactly what the people created on their own. Making their system useless. When things like that happen(official systems being created) the unofficial systems created by the people die out.

    Two things:

    Threads like Marriage partner and Make a friend will always exists. Even in games were there is such a buddy system, players will post these thread irregardless. Does it mean having such a system is pointless? No. It's nice to see players search through different avenues to achieve their goals in a game. To say an automated system will take away this experience is a bit of an extreme, considering it's us the players choice as you've already stressed.




    The second thing is this notion of "it's just a video game" is getting quite boring.

    No, FFXIV is not just a video game. It's a M.M.O.R.P.G. And like any MMO, you will deal with people, see them, and play with them. You're bound to create a relationship with them one form or another, rather its asking to play with them tomorrow, always happy to see them online, to stalking them on the games social outlet via harassment, or talking crap about one another.



    Keep the feedback rolling guys. /o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
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    I believe it will hurt the community made system.

    You have to understand that SE adding some system isn't going to help anyone magically get some bond with someone friend or no. A friendship is not some thing that is asked for. It happens on its own accord.

    A system like this won't help you make friends if the people don't want to be friends with you. Just isn't how it works.

    Take the marriage thread for example.. That thread has one crucial flaw.. It only asks for marriage and that's it, it's not specific. That thread is borderline dating service. The people who use that thread to just JUST get married for the items and go are using the thread correctly. All the people asking for whatever more are using it in a way it isn't built for.

    This is why the Friendship Thread was done correctly. Because the purpose was to make friends. Not boy/girlfriends, or husband's/wives.

    Friend -> Best Friend -> Boy/Girlfriend -> Husband/Wife

    Without those steps in order, you can't have a strong relationship. A system can create a marriage, because marriage is a system. It can't however, make a friendship.

    This is why we don't need a matchup system. I'm not sure what you want Cleftobismal.. I assumed you wanted something romantic. If it's not that, and just want a friend, why not use aaaaalllll the tools SE gives you? Use the Friend Megathread.
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