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[Jennestia]

What is it when?

It's a game that's gone gold -- it's not a beta or alpha. Do you even know what an alpha is? Alpha builds generally have zero working mechanics, they're usually to test a very specific feature or set of features and very rarely can even be played.

You could consider this a glorified beta if you want, as we weren't paying pretty much anything, even while it was free for a year. You had a box cost, but you didn't even get a cashshop.

[Laf]

It's a game that's gone gold -- it's not a beta or alpha. Do you even know what an alpha is? Alpha builds generally have zero working mechanics, they're usually to test a very specific feature or set of features and very rarely can even be played.

Pre-alpha you mean? Alpha version can have working mechanics and made into game, if you ignore poor code and bugs.


Oh, I should have noted I speaking game's content/functionality vise, devs still struggling to fix/make basics of the game. I can't be anything higher than alpha.

[RemVye]

Pre-alpha you mean? Alpha version can have working mechanics and made into game, if you ignore poor code and bugs.


Oh, I should have noted I speaking game's content/functionality vise, devs still struggling to fix/make basics of the game. I can't be anything higher than alpha.

You mean the basics which they have stated can't be so easily fixed because of the original design teams database structure and poor choices. I think that's what you mean... Hmm wonder why they are making v2.0? Because they are changing the engine and database design so they can implement these things in a non-complex messy sloppy half-assed way.

Reading, you need to does it gooder.

[Laf]

You mean the basics which they have stated can't be so easily fixed because of the original design teams database structure and poor choices. I think that's what you mean... Hmm wonder why they are making v2.0? Because they are changing the engine and database design so they can implement these things in a non-complex messy sloppy half-assed way.

Reading, you need to does it gooder.

In short: current FFXIV nothing near finished.

It's their own fault hiring crappy devs and costumers shouldn't be paying extra for someone else mistakes.

[RemVye]

In short: current FFXIV nothing near finished.

It's their own fault hiring crappy devs and costumers shouldn't be paying extra for someone else mistakes.

Ok, but.. if they decided to remake the entire game from the ground up (essentially they have). Then you could always argue that it's nothing near finished until the new version is released, because they are rebuilding the game. That's essentially what you're arguing.

They announced V2.0 but this isn't V2.0 so the game isn't complete.

I dono, I understand what you're saying... but to me V2.0 is like an expansion of the current game.

Let's use the ever-hated WoW as an example... to me it's like saying; "I'm not going to buy WoW [Vanilla, BC, etc etc.] until all the expansions are released because it's not a complete game yet". MMO's are games of constant change, I accept V2.0 as a free expansion, that's my take on it. We get to see exclusive content, progress characters, earn gil, be the first to touch content, complete achievements that will be forever lost once the new version is released and maybe more.