Please fix or remove housing!

[Clethoria]

There's another reason why this is a poor argument. Other people can enjoy the houses even if I can't, because they're FC houses. And so even if I'm not there, another FC member can be. Or are you going to say that an FC shouldn't have a house if the FC leader is never there?

As a FC owner, and as someone who wants an entire estate separate from it- I agree. I do not fault my members for putting their own spin on the place, but it's not what I would personally want to call my own. My room in the estate is more of a joke room for people to enter. But for my own needs a M sized estate would do nicely. I could decorate it, and I know that there will be some one who enjoys house touring as much as I do somewhere out there to see it.

Even if the owner doesn't log in for a month, doesn't mean they didn't put love and effort into it. And I'm quite sure the amount of players buying up homes and leaving them 100% empty just to say "screw you" is at low number. I'm on a very populated server so getting a home that isn't in The Goblet is a rarity. But I still held out and managed to snag one.

[MomomiMomi]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...9560946536893/

I showed everyone my greed, yes.

Now please get back to reasonably asking SE to fix the housing issue. Enough with the sensationalist clickbait.

I've argued for SE to fix this issue for a long time; over these past three years. So please, go on, but do it well.

[Evol]

As a FC owner, and as someone who wants an entire estate separate from it- I agree. I do not fault my members for putting their own spin on the place, but it's not what I would personally want to call my own. My room in the estate is more of a joke room for people to enter. But for my own needs a M sized estate would do nicely. I could decorate it, and I know that there will be some one who enjoys house touring as much as I do somewhere out there to see it.

Even if the owner doesn't log in for a month, doesn't mean they didn't put love and effort into it. And I'm quite sure the amount of players buying up homes and leaving them 100% empty just to say "screw you" is at low number. I'm on a very populated server so getting a home that isn't in The Goblet is a rarity. But I still held out and managed to snag one.

I agree too, its nice and enjoyable huh, but that doesn't change the fact that it is unfair. There shouldn't only be a select few who get to own one and enjoy those perks.

My point is simple: Grats on having a plot. I'm sure you don't like the idea of giving it up. Yet, there are thousands that won't get to have the same enjoyment as you, who pay the same sub you do. Those people, won't give a crap if you lose that plot - in fact they'd be happy for it, especially if they won't ever get one either. Just the same as you don't give a crap that we don't have a plot, because you have one.

Rather than justifying greed, claiming you don't give a crap, or saying its lame to ask for the system to be removed until its implemented properly (much like they are doing with diadem atm); Why not relate, as you can - I'm sure - see the point on both sides. I'm not saying you are doing any of those things...its more of a generalized comment for all lol.

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I could potentially hold out and eventually get one too, but someone (and I mean thousands of someones) will be left out. This needs to be fixed.

I'm glad you found a plot though.

[Clethoria]

I don't think it's unfair, and this was before I got my estate mind you, because apartments exist. Just like with real life you simply gotta wait for things meant for a select group to open up. I get it, fantasy video game. But there are some inconveniences that aren't that big of a deal.

Now. What I think would be truly fair is if each player, upon unlocking housing via requirements- got a free apartment space as per their grand company. Small, cramped, but still usable and can be worked with. Aion does this and their housing is even harder to obtain because of the way the marketing works. They have to pay rent, but over all it's not a bad place and the area is beautiful and maybe quadruple the size of a housing ward in XIV.

My favorite housing ever was in Wonderland Online. You got a tent. Get to crafting. Want a wall? build it. The whole thing. Want a wall paper? Screw nature, craft the paper. Get pigment from flowers and ink. Want stairs? Better chop those trees (after you make the axe, and that's after you go to the caves for iron ore) open a forgery to make the nails, mix chemicals to get the- you get the point.

[Evol]

I don't think it's unfair, and this was before I got my estate mind you, because apartments exist.

Apartments do not have gardening, apartments do not have workshops, apartments do not have airships. It's easy for you to say this now, because you have a plot.

In real life, if you got the money, its done. That's not the same in this game. I won't reiterate everything I've said up till now - feel free to read the whole thread...or not.

Select groups? lol, convo over.

HF

[Clethoria]

Apartments do not have gardening, apartments do not have workshops, apartments do not have airships. It's easy for you to say this now, because you have a plot.

Select groups? lol, convo over.

HF

All these flavors and you chose to be salty.

Your argument is literally "I want what everyone else has without having to work/wait for it. And because other people want to hold onto something they paid literal millions for, they're in the wrong."

[MomomiMomi]

My favorite housing ever was in Wonderland Online. You got a tent. Get to crafting. Want a wall? build it. The whole thing. Want a wall paper? Screw nature, craft the paper. Get pigment from flowers and ink. Want stairs? Better chop those trees (after you make the axe, and that's after you go to the caves for iron ore) open a forgery to make the nails, mix chemicals to get the- you get the point.

Haha, that did have pretty cool housing. Too bad I couldn't really enjoy the game much without friends.

Indeed, I would have liked something similar.

[Sylfaein]

In real life, if you got the money, its done. That's not the same in this game.

Well, yeah...it's a game.

Would you also like to work a full-time job, have a mortgage and chocobo payment, and get pulled over by the Twin Adders for drinking a bit too much Realm Reborn Red? I wonder what property insurance rates are like in Ishgard...bet their policies exclude damage caused by dragons, primals, and acts of the Holy See.

Because I know I totally play this game to have fun in a world so much like the one I already live in.

[Evol]

All these flavors and you chose to be salty.

Your argument is literally "I want what everyone else has without having to work/wait for it. And because other people want to hold onto something they paid literal millions for, they're in the wrong."

Where is the saltiness? Please show me?

Referencing your own greedy and salty "I'm part of the select group others can't be a part of, that this content was intended for", is what shines the most here. What you are doing is called 'projection'. It is a form of denial. This isn't a thread designed for you and yours to plus each other's posts and tell everybody "boohoo". Of course its easy for you to say those ignorant things you are saying because you already have a plot. That's exactly why I said conversation over to you and HF (Have Fun). No, this thread is for the topic the thread is for. Which is to fix housing - you can start your own thread for "Please let me be the only one to have housing". Other than that, expect a reply from me to counter all of your arrogance, each and every time you let a little more of it out.

I'm pretty sure, I've waited quite long enough (Since early access 1.0). I'm positive, that I've put in more than enough work. I've already made it more than clear what this post is about and if you can't be bothered to read every post, yet still want to make baseless accusations and take things off topic - by all means, go for it.

There's something seriously wrong with the 3 of you that come in here knit-picking a sentence or two, fail to make a point other than "Yea we're greedy, and we don't care", and then think you've accomplished something. You are trolling. Every step of the way I've been nothing but nice - blunt, sure - but nothing but nice. It is you who decided to come in here, break out the word salty the second your greedy views weren't agreed with - and take things the wrong way.

But I will go ahead and humor your original reply to me. Who was the group housing was meant for? I'm pretty sure it was FCs and Players, and especially those who have the gil to purchase a plot (Just like me). I don't see anything that specifically mentions your name. EVERY player was the intended group. Get over yourself. Its been said before that this system will be expanded for more than just those of you who have a plot now, and a major goal of this topic is to have SE make that happen sooner - rather than later.

So as I said previously - Have Fun, this conversation (that is the one where I am needlessly responding to you, and in turn helping you keep this thread off-topic) is over.

Well, yeah...it's a game.

Would you also like to work a full-time job, have a mortgage and chocobo payment, and get pulled over by the Twin Adders for drinking a bit too much Realm Reborn Red? I wonder what property insurance rates are like in Ishgard...bet their policies exclude damage caused by dragons, primals, and acts of the Holy See.

Because I know I totally play this game to have fun in a world so much like the one I already live in.

So you read the whole thread, understood what this topic is about, and still chose to knit-pick that single sentence of mine? Trolls left and right. But ok, since you decided to pick on that single sentence, let's go ahead and dig into it!

* You know full well that there is an entire thought that that sentence stems from, whether you chose to read that whole thought or not is not my problem - but yours. If you wanna purchase the plot illegally, you certainly can get it done just like that in-game too (just as an example). Except ya see I'm not gonna risk losing my account. But hold on, there's more...

* Unlike you, I play this game, with an understanding that real life BS isnt gonna be there, other than trolls like yourself (now yes, I admit this one was a little salty ). To provide you with a full thought in one single paragraph; I don't expect to have to save for 6 years, to get a house in a game, because land is limited like it is in the real world. But good try using that argument.

* The rest of what you said is pure trolling.

Please stay on topic, please understand the full topic before replying, please do not troll.


Thank you.

[Novalia]

I agree with the OP. The housing system is unfair, and SE needs to fix it. Such a shame, whenever someone finally speaks up about it, there's nothing but off-topic banter taking the focus off the real issue.

Let's not let this thread go to waste!

BUMP!