Please fix or remove housing!

[crc0427]

Honestly, owning a house myself, I do feel like housing should have never been private. It should have been company only, at least in the current wards. A housing ward filled with private housing tends to be a dead ward.

[Evol]

Honestly, owning a house myself, I do feel like housing should have never been private. It should have been company only, at least in the current wards. A housing ward filled with private housing tends to be a dead ward.

Interesting perspective. I can totally relate to this. I go to a housing ward and its mostly empty and dead.

[OliviaJ]

I wasn't trying to come off as salty, I'm just simply tired of hearing the constant complaining from the overpopulated servers. I get it, even though I don't agree with you. I have friends on my server and luckily it's never been overpopulated. Housing was closed prior to demolition for a very long time. Now that I've experienced housing I would definitely make an alt on a lower pop server if for some reason I lost mine and there wasn't any opportunity to get one back. To suggest that it gets completely scrapped so no one can enjoy it, sarcastic or not is going to invite defensive and "salty" responses.

That being said if they scrapped housing all together I would probably quit playing as would many others, especially crafters. A better fix would be an instanced housing area in the new expansion. I personally prefer the neighborhood scene even though it's unpopulated a good amount of the time. It's nice seeing how others express themselves.

[Evol]

I wasn't trying to come off as salty, I'm just simply tired of hearing the constant complaining from the overpopulated servers. I get it, even though I don't agree with you. I have friends on my server and luckily it's never been overpopulated. Housing was closed prior to demolition for a very long time. Now that I've experienced housing I would definitely make an alt on a lower pop server if for some reason I lost mine and there wasn't any opportunity to get one back. To suggest that it gets completely scrapped so no one can enjoy it, sarcastic or not is going to invite defensive and "salty" responses.

That being said if they scrapped housing all together I would probably quit playing as would many others, especially crafters. A better fix would be an instanced housing area in the new expansion. I personally prefer the neighborhood scene even though it's unpopulated a good amount of the time. It's nice seeing how others express themselves.

Thank you!

I appreciate you replying again and this time being a bit more constructive, truly! Its fine if you don't agree (obviously), though there's something I guess I didn't clarify properly:

* I do not think that the housing system should get scrapped, I think they should FIX it.

* If they don't plan to fix it, they SHOULD scrap it, and I say this because the issue is that serious. No player should be forced to roll an alt on a different server. No player should have to pay 20 dollars to transfer their main. And everyone who pays a sub for this game, should have access to the same content. There should not be a finite number of players who are considered 'special-er' and have access to something others don't. Consider even content exclusive to CE purchasers...even 10 months later someone can digitally upgrade and experience, and have access to, the same content.

The obvious answer here is to fix it, not scrap it. The idea that it should be scrapped if no fix will be implemented, should only fuel others to want to encourage SE to fix it as well. And for the most part, I'm getting a positive feedback from this thread - as others are in agreement with me. Do they want it scrapped? Hell no! They want it fixed!

You're tired of hearing complaining? Then help us ask SE to fix the issue, don't bash those that are unhappy and disregard us because you're not experiencing the same issues. Be grumpy with SE, not with us! Otherwise, its gonna sound like you are one of the few who actually like it when you have things others don't. Except housing isnt something that's gonna be fixed with grinding. It's not an issue that's fixed with being persistent and putting in your time. Its not an issue where people are saying they don't like how long the anima weapon grind is - its entirely different, no amount of grinding or ability is going to open up new plots.

And yea, expand the existing instances or add more instances - either way your recently suggested solution is absolutely valid! SE should not be adding more features to housing for the special few to enjoy, they should leave it as is and stop development on it until the issue of everyone getting to experience it is resolved!

[OliviaJ]

Without going too off topic, what is your opinion of airships or the company workshop? That's "content being blocked" in a sense if you don't have an active FC. I've gotten around this by my family making alts (we all play on the same server) and leveling up our own personal FC (not to rub it in, truly) but would this be the next thing to pop up as a demand to fix?

[Evol]

Without going too off topic, what is your opinion of airships or the company workshop? That's "content being blocked" in a sense if you don't have an active FC. I've gotten around this by my family making alts (we all play on the same server) and leveling up our own personal FC (not to rub it in, truly) but would this be the next thing to pop up as a demand to fix?

Actually it's part of the 'content being blocked' that I'm referring to!

I am the 'Leader' of a FC on Sarg (I don't think of it as my personal FC, because I'm not the only one in it. All our members contribute to the FC and make it what it is). We have 6-7 regular active members, and another 15 who are a bit more casual. We're a rank 8 FC, and we do get the buffs. But with out a house, you don't get a company workshop, and you don't get airships and exploratory missions. We all had been in FCs which had far too many people with regard to the number of individuals who can access said content at a time. We all had been far too late, and far too removed from the upper echelons of said FCs, to get access.

If that wasn't the case, we could all just go join an FC that has these things already right? Except 99% of the time those facilities are blocked to the mass population of an FC. The founding few, or friends and favored - get access and control. Its not just the company workshop and exploratory missions, its also gardening, and the works!

Fixing this so all FCs can have a house, makes it so that players aren't forced into larger FCs and/or to deal with pre-established groups; while new and smaller FCs can utilize those facilities (i.e. Company Workshop, Airships, Gardens). Private homes don't get some of those things, which is EXACTLY why I feel FC housing is far more important than private housing.

And I, for one, would also like to experience BUILDING the airships and the FC - not just joining in 3 years later to everything being done already.

[OliviaJ]

I don't know. It almost seems like you want all the benefits of being on a low pop server while also enjoying the high pop server benefits. You can't have both and IMO you shouldn't ask that the game be fundamentally changed to suit that. Best of luck to you. Personally I can't be on board with this.

[Evol]

I don't know. It almost seems like you want all the benefits of being on a low pop server while also enjoying the high pop server benefits. You can't have both and IMO you shouldn't ask that the game be fundamentally changed to suit that. Best of luck to you. Personally I can't be on board with this.

So I assume that you 100% completely disagree with the cross-world party finder? Cuz that's giving low-pop servers the benefits of high-pop servers via fundamentally changing the nature of the game with regard to individual/segregated servers, in order to do so.

I demand all the benefits that come with my subscription; Housing included. I can't be on board with someone who thinks otherwise, or who fancies themselves more deserving than others. But I do thank you for your opinion.

[OliviaJ]

[QUOTE=Evol;3996162]So I assume that you 100% completely disagree with the cross-world party finder? Cuz that's giving low pop-servers the benefits of high-pop servers via fundamentally changing the nature of the game with regard to individual/segregated servers, in order to do so.
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Entirely different thing and you know it. Only way you could claim it was the same thing is if housing wards were also cross server. Housing is included with your subscription...on a different server.

I also guarantee that the very second a lot opens up and you obtain it that we never hear a peep from you about this again.

[Evol]

Entirely different thing and you know it. Only way you could claim it was the same thing is if housing wards were also cross server. Housing is included with your subscription...on a different server.

I also guarantee that the very second a lot opens up and you obtain it that we never hear a peep from you about this again.

Its not an entirely different thing. Don't like the low pop on your server? Can never find anyone to party? "Boohoo. Transfer to another server or roll an alt or whatever!" These were your words!

Its the same exact thing. People aren't able to access content because player population is too low on their server. So SE is implementing the Cross-World Party Finder features to alleviate that problem, so that players don't have to roll alts on different servers or pay for a transfer. Those players are also "included with their subscription....on a different server."

You seem to be very tunneled into your own personal opinion (like me, admittedly), though your opinion seems to simply be disregarding everyone else and trying to argue every point I've made. You are not thinking objectively about the issue, and are contradicting yourself several times over.

And you're wrong. I'll continue to support this topic until it is resolved. Not just for me, but for everyone. After all, I started this topic. Our FC getting a plot isnt going to make it disappear.