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  1. #81
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Also on Sargatanas and snagged a small house in Mist yesterday (and had an anxious 30 seconds as I had to relinquish the previous small house in the goblet and teleport to new house before anyone else got it!). Old house was bought by someone within 2 minutes (although to be fair I did broadcast it's availableness on the Novice Network).

    They're definitely available, but not without some effort/checking!
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  2. #82
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    dejiko_san's Avatar
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    Princess Mae'a
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    You have tools to get into endgame raiding even without a static: PF & RF.

    Do you have tools to get into housing ? None
    Since the housing can be a private thing SE should have just increased the amount of plots.

    2160 plots for a server is ridiculous you can't deny that.
    You DO have tools for getting a house if you want one badly enough. It's called server transfer. Lots of servers have houses left, people just overpopulate some worlds...
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  3. #83
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    Efrye's Avatar
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    Fey Nafilia
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by dejiko_san View Post
    You DO have tools for getting a house if you want one badly enough. It's called server transfer. Lots of servers have houses left, people just overpopulate some worlds...
    That's a good point. You just need to want it badly enough to leave behind your company and friends, as well as find a way around the 1 million gil limitation of the server transfer.

    How silly of people to complain when they have that option!
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    Last edited by Efrye; 01-20-2017 at 07:22 AM.

  4. #84
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    Its your thinking I don't understand. Why should an FC or an Individual who has had a plot all this time, get first dibs on the new plots? Why should they? How is that fair at all? Nothing should be held for said entities they should have the same fair chance as everyone to get one. That's my thinking and I don't see anything wrong with it. You are actually proposing that locking everyone else out of a fair chance at the new plots, until after those who already have a plot decide which plot they want - is not locking others from features? You are contradicting your argument against me
    with your own statement.
    Yes exactly my idea sounds as stupid as yours

    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    Why should I be able to go straight to a medium or large? I can afford the in-game price, just like all the people in game who went straight to a medium or large. The issue is simply that there aren't enough plots for everyone. People don't buy a small on Sarg to eventually upgrade to a medium. They buy it because that's all that's available. I checked just yesterday. Several of my friends check for me each and every day. Ragnarok is Ragnarok, I live on Sarg. Just because it isnt a problem for you or your FC, doesn't mean it isnt an issue here on Sarg, and elsewhere.
    A lot of people have enough for a medium/large, I agree some had no choice, but others like myself bought a small on the condition that we would save and upgrade later. Some people from the start did the exact same thing due to the fact SE promised us a feature for upgrading/transfer shortly after housing was released. Even if they add more houses there will never be enough medium/large for every player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    I welcome your feedback, but I have already responded to the point regarding low-pop servers and housing being available to them. Why should I pay $20 to go to another server just to be able to buy a house for my FC? Why should 20 active people in my FC abandon their server? Why should we have to pay money when we are already paying a sub? When you are low on gil do you go to pvp-gil.com and buy some? When you bought your house did you illegally buy it from a PC in-game?
    Houses can be found easily and looking on lodestone sargantanas looks like a smaller server still. Also it felt a smaller server when I was on it too. I also know getting a house wasnt that bad on Sargantanas I camped the aetherite on there too and helped my FC get a house. BTW we also purchased a small and later upgraded to a large.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    Your way of thinking IMHO is inherently wrong. Still leaves the other players an opportunity to get a house from the old wards? Why should everyone else be 'left an opportunity'? Why should you get first dibs when you already have a house? The only bit of your thinking that I do agree with, is that FCs are definitely more important - with regard to housing - than individual players. I can't stand seeing <pure> on 5 plots in a row. I was told that this could simply be several members of the same FC all wanting plots neighboring their FC. Really? So several FCs lose a spot so individuals can neighbor their feature packed FC house? How is that right?
    So people who had no choice to get a small should have no choice to get a bigger house, cause you was too lazy to camp the aetherites. Yes I agree it sucks to do it, but it doesn't make you any more entitled. Also as it stands I will be creating another FC with alts for when the expansion gets realised, this way I have a larger chance of getting a medium/large FC house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    While you're so interested in getting content held specially for you, while you're so convinced that you and yours are deserving of special treatment, you are doing nothing but proving the greed of players - and it's something that only SE can fix. This is the purpose of this thread, and I am so glad you are helping me to prove my point.
    Not sure how this is relevant. I can only see you asking for special treatment in having a houses gifted to you cause you don't have one. Yes the vast majority should be able to get a small at the very least.

    No solution that involves nerfing, locking people out or forcing transfers is a fix.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 01-20-2017 at 08:09 AM.

  5. #85
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    RoseOfTheRaven's Avatar
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    Rosy Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 71
    Sure plots are available sometimes, that's very true. What the OP is trying to say is however, it should be possible for every player to get a house easily..not having to wait or stalk the ward list just to try and ninja one the moment it demos.

    I have always said that SE should have and still should re-do housing as instance based. Why? Because it's simple..and it's resource friendly. Take a look at Black Desert Online. EVERY place you can have a house is instanced. Multiple people have the same house in the same spot--you open a menu when you click the door to the list of players who have bought that house and you can visit them (a lot like private rooms/apartment rooms). You can own up to 5 residences in that game..now that isn't really necessary here but my point is any player no matter the server can have a house of their own. Will everybody see your cool yard? maybe not..but you can have a yard.

    I fully support the idea of instanced personal housing. I think it'd be cool if FCs still kept the wards. Also I think that if everything was merged to one ward, it'd be cool if u could set whose house you see when you run around it or if it set to "last house visited" so you see the houses in the ward belonging to players that you have visited or even simply interacted with.
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  6. #86
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RoseOfTheRaven View Post
    Sure plots are available sometimes, that's very true. What the OP is trying to say is however, it should be possible for every player to get a house easily..not having to wait or stalk the ward list just to try and ninja one the moment it demos.

    I have always said that SE should have and still should re-do housing as instance based. Why? Because it's simple..and it's resource friendly. Take a look at Black Desert Online. EVERY place you can have a house is instanced. Multiple people have the same house in the same spot--you open a menu when you click the door to the list of players who have bought that house and you can visit them (a lot like private rooms/apartment rooms). You can own up to 5 residences in that game..now that isn't really necessary here but my point is any player no matter the server can have a house of their own. Will everybody see your cool yard? maybe not..but you can have a yard.
    If that was the case I would agree with him/her. But this isn't the case they think everyone who hasn't got a house should get first chance at all available houses. When people have had no choice but grab what ever is available. End of the day if I upgrade my old plot is free.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoseOfTheRaven View Post
    I fully support the idea of instanced personal housing. I think it'd be cool if FCs still kept the wards. Also I think that if everything was merged to one ward, it'd be cool if u could set whose house you see when you run around it or if it set to "last house visited" so you see the houses in the ward belonging to players that you have visited or even simply interacted with.
    I agree with this personal houses should of never been on the wards. They should of been more expensive like SE promised when personal houses were released after FC housing.
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  7. #87
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    Pyrali's Avatar
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    Ardene Pyrali
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    The main difference between an apartment and a house is a yard, pretty much. So that idea does not work. If you don't care about the yard, get an apartment.

    Communism doesn't work lol, and the idea of "If I can't have it no one should!!" is both childish and entitled.
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  8. #88
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    Astral Taka
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Lets take away dev time to parse chat logs for house sellers for the people who were to lazy to buy their own house. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO 1 DUNGEON PER PATCH FOR THIS!
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  9. #89
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    Olivia Jeannet
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Just for giggles I checked and it seems someone got their FC a house.
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  10. #90
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    Gideon Aryeh
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Thing is housing needs to be fixed period. I'd have no issue transferring from Balmung to Mateus to be able to buy a house as there are plenty there but I shouldn't lose my money in the transfer, also I'm a roleplayer and if I transferred to another server I'm pretty much assed out in finding a rp community on a server like Mateus.
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