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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    When people come to play a game, they are seeking enjoyment. That's an ambiguous term
    I'm going to stop you right there. This is the core of what I'm saying. They are only providing one form of enjoyment. What about the rest of the people who are looking for something else?

    inb4 "play a different game". That's probably what's going to happen. It's what I'm already doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    "one form of enjoyment"

    Lets ignore 24mans, primals, anima quests, dungeons, hunts, PvP etc because it inconvenient to your argument? Fair enough if you choose not to participate in raids but there are other things to do. Asing for fresh content when people get bored after a couple of weeks is something alot of naysayers bring upon themselves imo.

    "Something else" is far to vauge when you are being provided with things to do... Hell even crafter/gatherer mains are provided for in this game...
    Endgame. We're talking about endgame. Primals, raids, and 24-raids are all essentially the same type of content.

    Primals: Boss.
    Raids: Corridor, boss.
    24-man: Corridor, boss, corridor, boss, repeat.

    Yes, one type of enjoyment in endgame. Even dungeons are the same, but I'd be hard pressed to fit them into endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I'm going to stop you right there. This is the core of what I'm saying. They are only providing one form of enjoyment. What about the rest of the people who are looking for something else?

    inb4 "play a different game". That's probably what's going to happen. It's what I'm already doing.
    "one form of enjoyment"

    Lets ignore 24mans, primals, anima quests, dungeons, hunts, PvP etc because it inconvenient to your argument? Fair enough if you choose not to participate in raids but there are other things to do. Asing for fresh content when people get bored after a couple of weeks is something alot of naysayers bring upon themselves imo.

    "Something else" is far to vauge when you are being provided with things to do... Hell even crafter/gatherer mains are provided for in this game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Endgame. We're talking about endgame. Primals, raids, and 24-raids are all essentially the same type of content.

    Primals: Boss.
    Raids: Corridor, boss.
    24-man: Corridor, boss, corridor, boss, repeat.

    Yes, one type of enjoyment in endgame. Even dungeons are the same, but I'd be hard pressed to fit them into endgame.
    Ohh one type of content sure if you disregard the most defining factor between them... Their difficulty and rewards.

    So what kind of endgame would you like then? You can't cop out and say you don't have to specify what you want because yes you do, nothing seems to please. If you want a city building simulator you actually do need to play a different game... You are in the totally wrong genre.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 01-17-2017 at 09:34 AM.