well then....

[VanilleFang]

If I was kicked from a group for using cleric stance I would be happy.

[Cleftobismal]

At-least you didn't avoid the fact you were solo queued and decided to go against the party wishes, whether it's logical or not. To me getting to be kicked from a dungeon party that was 100% anti-cleric stance is probably blessing in disguise, their DPS is probably abysmal too. Heck, even taking a self 30-minute penalty is probably a lot less than dealing with 45 min+ dungeon because of their gameplay. Logical or not, you can't assume everyone is solo queued, and if you solo queue it's still in your best interest to get agreement.

I was more geared than all of them. And anyone who gets irritated from a healer going above and beyond in their party is clearly having a bad day. No one here is a Saint.





Did I forget to mention they were one of the players who tracked down my Discord after they were pulled to the Jail?

[Chevronone]

lol when the tank doesnt ask me if big pulls are fine i dont heal em lol simply

You clearly dont play this game cause guess who the mob is going to steamroll after they KO the tank. Spoiler: It's you.

[Astyrah]

And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer

outside of raid and ex trial, i play SCH as healer in expert roulettes and im the one who initiates and say to the tank, ”まとめおｋ！” meaning that it'd be ok for him to pull boss room to boss room. there's a satisfying feeling of bane-ing your 3 dots over 8~12+ targets and then spamming blizz2

[Feidam]

Sometimes however doing big pulls in duty finder tanks just abuse the healer though. Can't tell you the number of times I've seen tanks pull a crazy amount of mobs aoe twice in defensive stance, then switch to offensive stance to help kill the adds leaving me to burn everything I have repeatedly every pull. It's why I rarely heal pugs now. I'll sit in the queue as dps instead. Also, big pulls don't always mean a faster run when the dps isn't up to snuff or tanks can't control all those mobs.

[Canadane]

Also, big pulls don't always mean a faster run when the dps isn't up to snuff or tanks can't control all those mobs.

If they can't kill large mobs faster with their AOEs, I'd hate to see how slow they are on individuals!

[Feidam]

If they can't kill large mobs faster with their AOEs, I'd hate to see how slow they are on individuals!

Well, I wasn't speaking of dps aoe numbers, I'm speaking of the dps actually engaging in the fight instead "doing" their own thing. Such as one aoeing while one half heartedly does a single target rotation.

[Blonde_Huntress]

I sympathize--large pulls can put strain on the healer, especially new ones. I can handle them pretty well now (although on level 50+ dungeons please tell me first), but I think it needs to be a quick conversation with the group beforehand. That way everyone is in sync--but that's just my own opinion on that.

I must say I had to eat crow earlier today. Healers definitely SHOULD DPS when everyone else is good to go. There was an CNJ in my party earlier(I was THM) that would just jump around when they didn't have healing to do. I was like really? Now I see why Tanks/DPS get tired of that with a quickness.

[Feidam]

I sympathize--large pulls can put strain on the healer, especially new ones. I can handle them pretty well now (although on level 50+ dungeons please tell me first), but I think it needs to be a quick conversation with the group beforehand. That way everyone is in sync--but that's just my own opinion on that.

I must say I had to eat crow earlier today. Healers definitely SHOULD DPS when everyone else is good to go. There was an CNJ in my party earlier(I was THM) that would just jump around when they didn't have healing to do. I was like really? Now I see why Tanks/DPS get tired of that with a quickness.

That's actually a good point for healers that do dps. Sometimes smaller but faster pulls will give a smoother faster run when the healer can add to the dps. Sometimes not and super pulls are the most effective.

However, the large pull or bust mentality hurts more than helps imo unless everyone is suitably geared.

[Astyrah]

Sometimes smaller but faster pulls will give a smoother faster run when the healer can add to the dps. Sometimes not and super pulls are the most effective.

you are sort of correct with this in a way. but say if the dungeon mob packs are close together taking down small groups that are chain pulled will be bad for TP and MP of DPS (and likely the healer also) if they aoe as it gives a small window to regenerate however if they are far apart enough it's ok though usually you'd rather just pull everything together and aoe them down, it's TP/MP and CD efficient.

However, the large pull or bust mentality hurts more than helps imo unless everyone is suitably geared.

the mentality is wrong, in my datacentre the tanks adjust accordingly if they see that the dps aren't aoe-ing things fast enough, they don't call you out for being subpar but you will lose your chance to get a comm if you don't pick up the pace with them