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    well then....

    My party left me when I said I wouldn't do large pulls. I'm honestly besides myself right now. And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    My party left me when I said I wouldn't do large pulls. I'm honestly besides myself right now. And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer
    What was your reason to refuse doing large pulls? What was the dungeon? Did you try first or just flat out refused?
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    Large pulls in a dungeon on white mage?

    OH BOY <3

    Divine seal > regen on tank, if mobs doe aoe damage or you have a melee, medica 2.

    Cleric stance on > HOLY!
    get to around 6K MP, pop shroud, assess the mob left, regen tank, cleric back on, assize and back to holy

    if the tank is a dork knight, be wary about moaning nubs whinging about holy while blood price is up, tell him to learn his job better,

    If you get a competent WAR, just go to town with holy,

    with a PLD, be careful of pulling hate on a very large mob, PLD aoe threat is a fickle thing
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    Well, it's a weird attitude. What, you would just refuse to heal if the tank pulls more than three mobs? It's a team effort, there's got to be a bit of give and take. One person flatly doing something that will hold the other three back isn't really fair. That said, them leaving is also a bit over the top, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer
    No worries, there are plenty of good healeres who can handle it easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    My party left me when I said I wouldn't do large pulls. I'm honestly besides myself right now. And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer
    Because thats equivalent to me saying I refuse to do AoE as a DPS. Or I refuse to use mitigation as a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    My party left me when I said I wouldn't do large pulls. I'm honestly besides myself right now. And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer
    Depends on the dungeon. If it was an expert dungeon, then yeah I would see one of them taking the thirty minute penalty. As the dungeon may take more than just thirty minutes and then some to complete if it was done group, by group. It may seen unreasonable to make these duties fast, and you may think that they're only thinking of themselves and not you in making this an enjoyable pace. The argument can and will bend both ways. Not everybody in the world has the time to spend a hour on a dungeon. Some can only play this game two hours a day due to work, school, and life.

    Do you have a particular reason why you don't like huge pull's? Are you not comfortable with it yet or is there another reason?


    Otherwise, you got off easy. I'm surprised the party decided to leave and eat the penalty themselves instead of abusing the vote kick to remove you. Of course if that ever happens, you have the right to submit a ticket.

    The burden of the healer is to be the backbone of the party that support everyone no matter what. It is your duty to assist the party as much as you can, without fear of being chastised. As long as you do what you can do, you'll be fine. Even if you fail at meeting the parties expectations, always remind yourself that isn't a ban-able offense.


    On a curious note: What made you think no one want's to be a healer? A huge number of players main it. Myself included. And I love it.
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    Last edited by Cleftobismal; 01-12-2017 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    Of course if that ever happens, you have the right to submit a ticket.
    No, SE have stated that a "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason to kick someone from a party. As long as the kicked player did not experience verbal abuse or harassment, it's unlikely anything would be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    No, SE have stated that a "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason to kick someone from a party. As long as the kicked player did not experience verbal abuse or harassment, it's unlikely anything would be done.
    I find this false because on many occasions SE has stressed the options "Harassment" "Afk" "Disconnected" is what it is and cannot be used for anything else.

    They will punish you if you start believing it can be used for a "difference in play style" you speak. Provided you were reported for it.

    The Terms of Service and Conduct have nothing to do with the way you play. Don't dps as a healer, don't cross class provoke, eat all the indicators, refuse to aoe and single target. None of that warrants an attention of the customer service department.


    The only way for the vote kick function to be appropriate in your argument is if that "Difference in play style" was done out of spite/malice/grievance.
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    Last edited by Cleftobismal; 01-12-2017 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    I find this false because on many occasions SE has stressed the options "Harassment" "Afk" "Disconnected" is what it is and cannot be used for anything else.

    They will punish you if you start believing it can be used for a "difference in play style" you speak. Provided you were reported for it.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed
    While it may not be an option ingame, time has shown what is and isn't allowed.
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