well then....

[seekified]

I find this false because on many occasions SE has stressed the options "Harassment" "Afk" "Disconnected" is what it is and cannot be used for anything else.

They will punish you if you start believing it can be used for a "difference in play style" you speak. Provided you were reported for it.

The Terms of Service and Conduct have nothing to do with the way you play. Don't dps as a healer, don't cross class provoke, eat all the indicators, refuse to aoe and single target. None of that warrants an attention of the customer service department.


The only way for the vote kick function to be appropriate in your argument is if that "Difference in play style" was done out of spite/malice/grievance.

The GMs disagree.

EDIT: Canadane was quicker.

[Cleftobismal]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed
While it may not be an option ingame, time has shown what is and isn't allowed.

And just to clear things up, the reason I was kicked for had nothing to do with "different playstyles", the GM just put it in that category...

A bit contradictory don't you think?


Also knowing the Customer service department. Anything they say is typically never in unison and is scripted verbatim. To say the whole team believes in this because of one staff member who may not even be working as a Game master anymore, (As this thread is ultra old by 3 years) is a bit of a stretch.

And I also say this by experience. As I get a variety of responses from the same type of vote kick abuse I reported.







I must also add their responses on anything is always dangerously vague. And with good intentions, as we would often think what one person says is what the rest of the team members also believe in.



I'm not sure if we should continue to debate this as we may be getting off of the OP's point of the thread. Otherwise we will be going in pages and pages of "Well now we can just vote kick players for being under-geared or not playing to my expectations" etc etc.

[Mirch]

lol when the tank doesnt ask me if big pulls are fine i dont heal em lol simply

[Ilan]

lol when the tank doesnt ask me if big pulls are fine i dont heal em lol simply

You are playing the little princess and straight refuse to do your job in a dungeon because someone asks for your permission? Maybe tanks should start to refuse doing their job if dps start attacking before they are done pulling or if the healer puts regen on them to soon.

[Cleftobismal]

You are playing the little princess and straight refuse to do your job in a dungeon because someone asks for your permission? Maybe tanks should start to refuse doing their job if dps start attacking before they are done pulling or if the healer puts regen on them to soon.

+1



@Mirch
Honestly. I don't find it too much of a big deal when a healer or dps pulls before I do when I tank. But I wouldn't refuse taking the aggro off of them. That's childish as to not healing. If they die despite your healing, let that be your "justice". Otherwise that's just utter malice and vindictive. Which. . . . Does qualify as a report. As silly as it sounds.

[CookieMonsta]

lol when the tank doesnt ask me if big pulls are fine i dont heal em lol simply

Not even bro, imma just auto attack as a DPS. Have fun with the 45min+ run lol

[Rivxkobe]

And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer

???

Because... they can't control their team? I'm honestly confused by this statement.

[Taika]

OP started the thread, then disappeared without answering any questions. If it looks like a bait and smells like a bait...

[technole]

This reply is relevant to the OP.

I'm not sure if we should continue to debate this as we may be getting off of the OP's point of the thread. Otherwise we will be going in pages and pages of "Well now we can just vote kick players for being under-geared or not playing to my expectations" etc etc.

You can if you want to. DPS auto-attacking and watching Netflix? You don't even need a damage meter to know these things. That could be seen as a form of harassment by just not caring about mechanics, and slowing a run for other people whom have high DPS. No one says you have to be a world-leader in damage, just have to try, and you know, play the game.

That first response posted is about right on that. The vote dismiss is for a party to collectively decide who they want to play with. What a lot of people seem to forget that complain about this sort of thing is that they think everyone is solo queued. Believe it or not, a lot of people don't solo queue for roulettes .It takes two votes to dismiss.

Therefore if you are the one complaining about getting kicked often, you might need to learn to adjust your play style to fit what the rest of the party. Or just queue with your own friends.

[VanilleFang]

Wait. Were you running as WHM? Please tell me you were only joking if that's the case.