well then....

[Clethoria]

I don't mass pull as a tank because I'm just that slow of a player. I have poor coordination and panic when overwhelmed. If someone has a problem then they should stop using DF.

[Cleftobismal]

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Because of the fact it only takes two to vote kick. The duo's tend to get pompous to abuse it.

Can't tell you how many times a player I reported looked up my discord because lo and behold. They were pulled to the Prison.


Everything is about context here, they don't oblige to it just because you said so. That's not how any of the reports work. If there is a proper cause (Which there typically is when the vote kick is used the way you suggest is 'Ok') they will investigate and handle it.


I fail to understand the reasoning behind those minds that they are bullet proof to the policies because a vote kick feature exist.


And to be frank, a difference of opinion, exactly coincides with your excuse on a Play style being a good reason to vote kick someone.

You might as well kick a tank for taking off Shield Oath/Deliverance/Grit during the boss pulls, just because you don't like that even if the aggro never leaves the tank.


And no joke, I've been vote kicked for DPS'ing as a healer. No one died by the way. Nor was close to. And we were progressing to the middle of the dungeon. It all started when I said to the BLM "You don't need to heal." As he was spamming Psy's on the Paladin throughout the whole entire*** duty not dpsing at all. His response was "You don't need to dps" and claimed he's been spamming heals as a BLM because I shouldn't be dpsing as a healer. Oh and guess what, the paladin jumped in as well and said "Yeah were chatting here in the fc and I don't like it when you healers dps. It's not your job to, just keep spam healing me or get out." BLM: "No lets kick him now" Pld:"K"


Do you still want to excuse that behavior? And lets drop the opinion that the GM team says its okay. (Reasons stated before on page 2) That is a dangerous assumption based off the way that was posted by a player and the information he himself put that contradicts your belief.

[randysquirrel]

Don't really get what the issue is. No-one else in the party wanted to run at a slow pace, so they left.

What would you rather they have done? Tried to force a normal-paced run on you? Got argumentative? Kicked you?

They did not want to run the dungeon how you wanted, nor you how they did.
I would've done the same, I'd rather do something else for half and try again, then run a dungeon that is no fun (imo) at all

[HPDelron]

My party left me when I said I wouldn't do large pulls. I'm honestly besides myself right now. And people wonder why no one wants to play the healer

At the end of the day large multi-pulls are the standard operating procedure for the game. You're unlikely to find a random PuG group that shares your preferences. For better or worse it is what it is. You'll probably best be able to enhance your play experience by finding a class or role in which you feel comfortable fitting into the multi-pull dynamic. That could mean switching to something other than healer or it could mean simply identifying why you dislike large pulls on healer and working to change it.

Most players, be they healers, tanks or dps are at the bare minimum able to tolerate the currently popular methodology. Since there's no large movement against it, I don't see the status quo changing any time soon. Your only other option would be to gather like-mined players in party finder and avoid pugs.

[dragonseth07]

I don't mass pull as a tank because I'm just that slow of a player. I have poor coordination and panic when overwhelmed. If someone has a problem then they should stop using DF.

I mean, you're the outlier. Asking everyone else to conform to you is a lot more unreasonable than you conforming to everyone else.

[Gemina]

My perspective is if OP doesn't want to do large pulls, then he might want to consider playing a tank instead since more often than not, they determine the pace at which the dungeon will be ran. It really isn't a luxury a healer possesses. What they do possess is the ability to adapt to just about any group and job composition. A player who does not understand this might want to consider playing something other than healer.

That said, we don't know at what point he said this to his group. Was it at the start, or did it happen after the tank pulled everything from here to next week and didn't use any cooldowns to mitigate the incoming damage? If it was at the start and I was playing as a tank or DPS, I would seriously be like, "WTF!?" But I say this often when reading some of the experiences of other players on these forums. I've been pretty lucky and haven't encountered the level of douche-baggery that some of you have.

Either way, outright refusal is poor etiquette, and will never be met with any kind of positivity.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Looking at the OP's lodestone profile, I think I can understand why he won't do large pulls. At least in lvl 60 dungeons, his gear just isn't quite where I'd want mine to be to heal max level stuff (150 weapon, a few other 150-160 pieces, and even a 136). Knowing your limitations is a good thing. It probably could have been a more amicable exchange had the OP explained to the party that his gear isn't quite up to snuff for large pulls yet. I'd imagine most people would be understanding then.

[Ilan]

Looking at the OP's lodestone profile, I think I can understand why he won't do large pulls. At least in lvl 60 dungeons, his gear just isn't quite where I'd want mine to be to heal max level stuff (150 weapon, a few other 150-160 pieces, and even a 136). Knowing your limitations is a good thing. It probably could have been a more amicable exchange had the OP explained to the party that his gear isn't quite up to snuff for large pulls yet. I'd imagine most people would be understanding then.

Yes i saw it too and i can understand if someone doesn't want to do big pulls with that gear. What i don't understand is why the OP has gear like that since it is not his first healer on level 60.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Yes i saw it too and i can understand if someone doesn't want to do big pulls with that gear. What i don't understand is why the OP has gear like that since it is not his first healer on level 60.

That's a great question as well.

[technole]

Do you still want to excuse that behavior? And lets drop the opinion that the GM team says its okay. (Reasons stated before on page 2) That is a dangerous assumption based off the way that was posted by a player and the information he himself put that contradicts your belief.

At-least you didn't avoid the fact you were solo queued and decided to go against the party wishes, whether it's logical or not. To me getting to be kicked from a dungeon party that was 100% anti-cleric stance is probably blessing in disguise, their DPS is probably abysmal too. Heck, even taking a self 30-minute penalty is probably a lot less than dealing with 45 min+ dungeon because of their gameplay. Logical or not, you can't assume everyone is solo queued, and if you solo queue it's still in your best interest to get agreement.