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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Yes got that point, but look at it another way. Rolled as healer but not allowed to heal even when necessary, or ostracized for doing what job was intended to do mainly
    Please stop playing the victim. You gave us all one instance where the group turned on you for their faults or however it went. So? I messed up plenty when first adjusting to tanking. A good few times I'd hold Living Dead to the last second thinking it was an instant cast. What happened? Dropped dead with no Walking Dead active. Likewise, I've miss timed my cooldowns and wiped groups before. It happens. You dust yourself off, apologize for the mistake and move on. If someone chews you out, oh well. There are shitty people who won't tolerant even the slightest error. How dare you not be perfect, right? Yeah, they're idiots. Anything they say goes in one ear and out the other. We're all going to make mistakes and we're all going to have stupid parties where people scream over the smallest things. That's why Tales of the Duty Finder exist: we get to laugh at those types of people.

    You only become the problem when you refuse to improve because a bad experience happened. I'll take a healer who occasionally wipes the party because they miss timed benediction or got stuck in Cleric Stance without realizing over a healer who won't even touch the latter. Why? Because they made a mistake while trying to improve. That is okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Please stop playing the victim. You gave us all one instance where the group turned on you for their faults or however it went.

    You only become the problem when you refuse to improve because a bad experience happened. I'll take a healer who occasionally wipes the party because they miss timed benediction or got stuck in Cleric Stance without realizing over a healer who won't even touch the latter. Why? Because they made a mistake while trying to improve. That is okay.
    I'm playing no victim but tbh Im done, you people just seem to cricize any one that says anything that doesnt fit in with how you want the game to be. Dps healer or gtfo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I'm playing no victim but tbh Im done, you people just seem to cricize any one that says anything that doesnt fit in with how you want the game to be. Dps healer or gtfo.
    The people here critisise arguments that go against the truth. The game is designed and played in such a way that DPSing as a healer is the most effective way to play the role (and also supports your group the most), and that's the objective truth. That is why it doesn't make any sense to present or support arguments that not DPSing would be a "valid play style". There aren't multiple valid play styles for any job in this game, it's just how it is. Either face the truth or don't, but don't try to pretend there are alternatives for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    The people here critisise arguments that go against the truth. The game is designed and played in such a way that DPSing as a healer is the most effective way to play the role (and also supports your group the most), and that's the objective truth. That is why it doesn't make any sense to present or support arguments that not DPSing would be a "valid play style". There aren't multiple valid play styles for any job in this game, it's just how it is. Either face the truth or don't, but don't try to pretend there are alternatives for it.
    I just dont get that logic when a healer is who has great healing spells is forced to dps 90% of the time. Plus that argument is really putting me off the game. Id like to enjoy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I just dont get that logic when a healer is who has great healing spells is forced to dps 90% of the time. Plus that argument is really putting me off the game. Id like to enjoy it
    You not liking it doesn't make it any less true. It's like someone would like to play BRD who only sings (FFXI style, for example), and would try to push for that play style in this game and claim it's a valid play style. It wouldn't be, and they wouldn't be accepted in parties either. Their songs are great, but only singing them and doing nothing else to support the group just isn't enough!

    Try finding a job with a play style you actually enjoy in this game! If you can't, then unfortunately maybe the game just isn't for you.
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    Last edited by Taika; 01-12-2017 at 08:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You not liking it doesn't make it any less true. It's like someone would like to play BRD who only sings (FFXI style, for example), and would try to push for that play style in this game and claim it's a valid play style. It wouldn't be, and they wouldn't be accepted in parties either. Their songs are great, but only singing them and doing nothing else to support the group just isn't enough!

    Try finding a job with a play style you actually enjoy in this game! If you can't, then unfortunately maybe the game just isn't for you.
    like I said basically dps or gtfo isnt it? Thats your truth Im not sure SE had that in mind but still you all 'win' atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    like I said basically dps or gtfo isnt it?
    Well there is still no reason not to DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I'm playing no victim but tbh Im done, you people just seem to cricize any one that says anything that doesnt fit in with how you want the game to be. Dps healer or gtfo.
    So you want to heal and you pick the only healing class that has a healing bot that can solo heal most of the fights in this game. Then you complain that you don't want to micromanage that bot in savage content and that why the class is just a glorified DPS. Tell me more about it, I'm interested.
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    Last edited by AlphaSonic; 01-12-2017 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    So you want to heal and you pick the only healing class that has a healing bot that can solo heal most of the fights in this game. Then you complain that you don't want to micromanage that bot in savage content and that why the class is just a glorified DPS. Tell me more about it, I'm interested.
    Didnt complain about the fact of micromanaging the pet its just the amount I was expected to do as well as heal in the spaces allowed by the fight when with another healer that isnt healing enough. This is just it everything I say here is twisted. Plus every twisted reply I get is 'liked'
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    Last edited by Feyona; 01-12-2017 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    This is just it everything I say here is twisted. Plus every twisted reply I get is 'liked'
    No one is twisting anything. We are or, in my case and a few other's cases, were trying to understand your points and trying to get you to understand our points. But everytime some one replies with what they believe you are saying or argues against a point you made, or it seems you have made, you tell them they are not reading your posts and are bullies or twisting what you are saying.

    No one here is even sure where you stand on most things that's why they are asking you and correcting you on things. They are not attacking you, but once you get defensive and start making accusations some people are going to stop trying.

    Do you even understand the stance of many of us on the pro DPS side? Who knows.
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