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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Paladin is the only tank that has an ability that does damage based on the percentage of HP it has remaining that is also not player death related. (Being above 0% HP is not sufficient to do maximum damage as Paladin.) In fact, Paladin is the only Job in the entire game that has that mechanic.
    Im like everyone else, If I see myself at full HP, and press the button, the moment I press it, I take some crit or something, and I do less dmg.

    I generally assume the healer is going to try to keep me near the top of my max HP to begin with, and dont bother timing it anymore.
    But it interesting to point out that some people do enjoy that feature, and can make it stand out among the other jobs, simply because trying to time it right feels more fun than the other alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    But it interesting to point out that some people do enjoy that feature, and can make it stand out among the other jobs, simply because trying to time it right feels more fun than the other alternatives.
    Honestly, I'd like more abilities like spirits Within, with effects that range in potency depending on the current HP total, whether it's an ability that deals more damage the user is at, or for a random thought, a mitigation effect that gets stronger at low health, for example, 60% mitigation when used at 10% health or less. Trying to time that one with a Bene could be pretty fun.

    Perhaps a dps job trait, wherein they get a passive buff the lower their HP is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Honestly, I'd like more abilities like spirits Within, with effects that range in potency depending on the current HP total, whether it's an ability that deals more damage the user is at, or for a random thought, a mitigation effect that gets stronger at low health, for example, 60% mitigation when used at 10% health or less. Trying to time that one with a Bene could be pretty fun.

    Perhaps a dps job trait, wherein they get a passive buff the lower their HP is?
    I like the idea of a mitigation based on your HP being lower. And I'd love to see it on PLD, as this would make it the perfect class for it. Since PLD has the least number of things to watch, watching when to use these would be great way to add a unique playstyle, while still being decent even if they just pressed it when they wanted to.

    As for being a passive, that doesnt sound as fun, kinda meh.
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    Saying spirits within is a main mechanic of PLD is grasping at straws, PLD is just a tank without an interesting mechanic. Anything unique it does have is hardly used enough to make it a main gameplay focus and the way the game is balanced it's current toolkit could never be retooled to work as such. PLD doesn't have a mechanic and until it does it will be the boring tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Saying spirits within is a main mechanic of PLD is grasping at straws, PLD is just a tank without an interesting mechanic. Anything unique it does have is hardly used enough to make it a main gameplay focus and the way the game is balanced it's current toolkit could never be retooled to work as such. PLD doesn't have a mechanic and until it does it will be the boring tank.
    While PLD doesnt have a full on thematic mechanic, it IS a mechanic to the move that is unique to PLD.
    So after it was mentioned, I actually liked the idea of making PLD have that theme even more.

    But something for the OP to consider.

    Out of all 3 tank, everyone can agree PLD is fundamentally the easiest over all.
    Placing its DoT into its combo has given it enough "complexity" that its not really faceroll boring. (As you cant just apply it, when it wears off, like WAR and DRK can)

    But if you'll notice, most people tend to enjoy what they are "good" at, but also want to be slightly "challenged" at what they are good at.
    This balancing act is what usually determines what jobs people enjoy.
    Something is TOO hard, it becomes work, and doesnt seem worth the effort to get better at it.
    If its TOO easy, then you'll be day dreaming.

    WAR focuses on pre planning, and DRK is about multi tasking.

    If you are a person who likes to preplan stuff, chances are you will enjoy WAR.
    And the opposite, if you enjoy multitasking, then you'll enjoy DRK.

    It's also possible to like them for other reasons, minor things like, more DPS on WAR, more likely to be OT as WAR, just playing DRK reactionary, hitting things when they pop.

    Over all, its heavily dependent on the person, as each person is better and worse at different things, so one person will claim DRK is easy, whiel claiming WAR is hard, or the other way around, that WAR is easy, and that DRK is hard. (While most agree DRK is easy, I personally find WAR easier, but Im one of those people who play a job solely for wielding a 2hand sword. Otherwise I would be on WAR or PLD with a 2hand sword, if it were possible)
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