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  1. #11
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    Nic Pay
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    Id have to say drk, I just like the circle aoe better for enmity , I dont like the cone of overpower. That being said I do enjoy fell cleave alot, I enjoy the self heals of a warrior as well. Ive just always been a sword type myself, drk is just super cool and fun to play has the best animations in the game to me. But I really just like all three tanks and two of the healers I think SE did a great job on all of them. Cant sleep on paladin!!
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    For those of you who find Warrior boring or mundane... watch this video, Warrior at a high level of play is a lot more involved than you probably think it is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUXck-0vh5k
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  3. #13
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Paladin Lv 70
    It really isn't. All three tanks are pretty boring at a very high level.

    WAR just happens to have 18 seconds of [What am I doing with my life] which makes it somehow even worse than Always Busy DRK and Easily Optimized PLD.

    But that's okay because tanking in general isn't that interesting intrinsically in this game.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    It really isn't. All three tanks are pretty boring at a very high level.

    WAR just happens to have 18 seconds of [What am I doing with my life] which makes it somehow even worse than Always Busy DRK and Easily Optimized PLD.

    But that's okay because tanking in general isn't that interesting intrinsically in this game.
    Did you watch the video? Because what you're saying is in stark contradiction to the contents of the video unless he made it all up.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    It really isn't. All three tanks are pretty boring at a very high level.
    That's bait.

    Either that or it may be time to play other games til the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    That's bait.

    Either that or it may be time to play other games til the expansion.
    My motivation for tanking is extrinsic. That doesn't make tanking in the game bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthaen View Post
    Did you watch the video? Because what you're saying is in stark contradiction to the contents of the video unless he made it all up.
    He didn't make anything up. What Xeno finds very interesting about tanking in this game I find lacking. I don't necessarily mind being a very glorified dps, but it's not a motivation for me.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    My motivation for tanking is extrinsic. That doesn't make tanking in the game bad.



    He didn't make anything up. What Xeno finds very interesting about tanking in this game I find lacking. I don't necessarily mind being a very glorified dps, but it's not a motivation for me.
    Fair enough, to each his own I suppose. I personally find enjoyment in pushing dps as much as possible while still performing tanking duties exceptionally. Stance dancing and seeing what you can get away with and what you can't is fun for me. Out-dpsing actual dps classes without any tanking/agro issues is fun, though obviously if all dps players play to their potential this won't happen, but we know that often times they don't.
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  8. #18
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    Yeah, that's it. I don't find enjoyment in just doing my job, lol. Maximizing performance is what you do because it's your job in your raid and not doing that is letting other people down. There's no like fun in that for me because that would imply I had a choice in doing that or not.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthaen View Post
    For those of you who find Warrior boring or mundane... watch this video, Warrior at a high level of play is a lot more involved than you probably think it is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUXck-0vh5k
    While Xeno is the one that got me interested in tanking in this game, War is about the least involved tank to play mechanically than the other two, with comparatively few things to really pay attention to. Stacks are gained automatically, requiring no real input on the player's part beyond knowing when to FC, and their highest dps combo also generates excess enmity, which makes maintaining aggro child's play. Comparatively, both DRK and PLD are much faster in play style, and the player needs to be aware of whether or not they need to generate extra enmity, or if they can push more dps. Not to mention all the ogcd's of DRK translate to a very involved experience, which WAR just doesn't have. IMHO, anyhoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Shortened for space.
    Can you give some examples of how PLD is more involved than WAR? I just don't see it. I feel like PLD is much more easy to optimize than WAR at the highest levels of play. I might be wrong but I can't see such an in depth video being made for PLD, one that is as involved/in-depth as that warrior video Xenosys made.
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