3.5/4.0 Speculation & Discussion (Spoilers)

[Cilia]

Erm...

While it is a bit hypocritical of Eorzeans to use Omega after chastising the Garleans for using Allagan tech at any and every opportunity without considering the consequences, the difference is that we're like to use it only as an absolute last resort and put it away once we're done. The Garleans would use it at every opportunity to ease their path of conquest. Eorzea? Smoking crater! Beast tribes? Consider them gone! Those Ananta we're going to meet would be little more than an afterthought if the Garleans got their hands on Omega. That is the difference.

As to what the explosion at the end of the trailer is... either "Super Griffin" breaking out of "White Dalamud," Omega's Wave Cannon, or Omega's Wave Cannon blasting White Dalamud to hopefully kill "Super Griffin." It can't really be much else.

When I said the game is biased toward the Ascians' victory, what I meant was all they have to do is... do things. Action creates change, change creates conflict, conflict creates chaos. We can't win.

There is like to be moral ambiguity as a theme in Stormblood; we Americans have romantic notions of revolution owing to our country being born from one, but they are often messy affairs without a plan afterward. There are also extreme actions in most revolutions, as displayed by the Griffin and his Masks - this is like to continue. On the other hand the Garleans are almost certainly tyrants, as shown by their actions in Doma and their general dealings with us. Neither is a good choice... we need a middle road, but nobody will listen.

[Yuella]

Omega is from FF5....

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/O...inal_Fantasy_V)

[Belhi]

Out of curiosity, why is everyone convinced that Griffin is acting as a host for the primal rather than the traditional primal summoning. I am curious cause I cant see anything in the trailer suggesting that.

[Balipu]

Erm...

There are also extreme actions in most revolutions, as displayed by the Griffin and his Masks - this is like to continue. On the other hand the Garleans are almost certainly tyrants, as shown by their actions in Doma and their general dealings with us. Neither is a good choice... we need a middle road, but nobody will listen.

To be fair we never actually saw what happened in Doma. For all we know the Garlean rule was pretty okay and the revolution was lead by a Griffin like madman. Stormblood will be the first time we see Garlean rule in action.

Also while it is true that Yda probably won't just fire the wave cannon at everything for the lulz, if a community is wiped out or a sacred mountain blown up those who are affected, might not care.

Omega is from FF5....

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/O...inal_Fantasy_V)

Well yes, that's where we first saw it. Of course it showed up in the interdimensional rift. And we know that the rift basically flows between the various Final Fantasy settings.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Omega_(enemy)

Out of curiosity, why is everyone convinced that Griffin is acting as a host for the primal rather than the traditional primal summoning. I am curious cause I cant see anything in the trailer suggesting that.

You need to slow down the video speed to see it, but when White Dalamud is being formed you can see the outline of legs wearing boots inside. There is obviously a humanoid figure inside.

[Anonymoose]

Out of curiosity, why is everyone convinced that Griffin is acting as a host for the primal rather than the traditional primal summoning. I am curious cause I cant see anything in the trailer suggesting that.

I think it has something to do with the fact that you can see very humanoid feet inside of the alleged summoning sphere, as if the Griffin himself is transforming. I think it's a bit of a leap to make (I stopped at "It's a primal, Griffin did it." because the specifics seem irrelevant at the moment), but you never know. I mean, for starters, there are other humanoid primals. Sophia has feet. She's not a host. On the other hand, Thordan.

WARNING: HEADCANON AHEAD
I believe that Elidibus gave Thordan the Echo (Logic chain: Nabriales confirmed that Shiva was a test run by Lahabrea, Lahabrea and Elidibus were both shown behind the Archbishop's throne, Eldibus gave the Sahagin elder the Echo for seemingly no reason but to mess with the status quo, ergo perhaps it too was a Project Thordan test run). If true, it means that *both* primal-people were Echo users using the fuzzy walls of their souls to infuse themselves with a primal (as far as we know, Louisoix didn't become a host, he literally became a primal). Griffin is not known to have the Echo. But even if I'm right, Griffin meets with Elidibus, so he could have given it to him, too, LOL.

[Aerish]

Ascians giving aids

[Rokke]

To be fair we never actually saw what happened in Doma. For all we know the Garlean rule was pretty okay and the revolution was lead by a Griffin like madman.

But we know from DRK/WHM/NIN quests that life in Othard isn't/hasn't been pretty okay.

[Balipu]

But we know from DRK/WHM/NIN quests that life in Othard isn't/hasn't been pretty okay.

But we never saw it for ourselves, did we? That's my point. We never actually saw Garlean rule for ourselves. I don't want to drag IRL stuff into it as politics is messy but it can totally happen that a whole nation wan'ts foreign rule to end, only to realize later that it was a lot better than what came after.

Of course once the Domans rebelled (we don't exactly know what they did beside trying to take over) the city was destroyed, but we really don't know what it was like before.

[Belhi]

But we never saw it for ourselves, did we? That's my point. We never actually saw Garlean rule for ourselves. I don't want to drag IRL stuff into it as politics is messy but it can totally happen that a whole nation wan'ts foreign rule to end, only to realize later that it was a lot better than what came after.

Of course once the Domans rebelled (we don't exactly know what they did beside trying to take over) the city was destroyed, but we really don't know what it was like before.

We do know something off it. People in occupied lands aren't necessarily citizens and as such have very few rights. We know this from Biggs and Wedges bios in the Lore book as well as general information on Garlean's caste structure. We know that conscription is commonplace. We know that people can end up basically forced working hard labor or even kept as 'comfort women' for Garlean soldiers.

Now it likely depends a lot on the governor in charge. I am sure there are more benevolent governors out there. However we do have a lot of information to suggest that garlean rule is often oppressive for many. In the Doman case every Doman we have run into save one was pretty any Garlean and all seem to suggest the Garleans took a rather indiscriminate scorched earth approach to pacifying Doma. I mean we could be wrong about Yugiri and the Domans we helped but they didn't strike me as quite so fanatical as the Griffin.

[Balipu]

They do not have to be fanatical.
Okay, so off topic IRL stuff. Here in Hungary pretty much everyone hated Soviet Control. Of course if you worked high up the food chain it might have been better, but average citizens all agreed that it sucked. They even called that era átkos, which roughly translates to: the cursed times.
Well if you ask your grandparents now they'll feel nostalgic about the cursed times because everyone had a job, education was free, living costs were low and generally you could maintain living standards that no law abiding hungarian citizen can have now. Or at least not with the same job and education.