Another Platform primal in 3.5, is this how all of them will be in the future jc?

[bswpayton]

Sophia is fine cause you can still raise them after they fall (as opposed to Leviathan and Titan).

i'm okay with this, much better than another boss fought inside another circle.

i'd prefer they have more arenas like Binding Coil Turn 1.

I mostly play tank or healer so , actually dying at all isnt something I like to do, as it can ruin a run if I die I really enjoy like you mention turn one in coil. Someone mention even on thordan you can fall off, so that really leaves none where no type of falling off mechanic is in the hw well aside from someone mentioning nidhogg.

[ErryK]

I mostly play tank or healer so , actually dying at all isnt something I like to do, as it can ruin a run if I die I really enjoy like you mention turn one in coil. Someone mention even on thordan you can fall off, so that really leaves none where no type of falling off mechanic is in the hw well aside from someone mentioning nidhogg.

Thordan and Nidhogg are the only two primals where you cannot fall. Nidhogg has no barrier effects, while the rest have you fall and Thordan has a 9999-damage barrier (as in it ticks for 9999).

To be honest, this is a simple case of Git Gud.

[bswpayton]

Thordan and Nidhogg are the only two primals where you

Falling off a platform isnt a display of skill tho in my opinion its just an annoyance , and I also havent done these either so the get good before Ive even done them is unwarranted. I was just asking a question on what was with the sudden change in approach, that all of them are platform based fights.

People die in The Chrysalis, Urth's Fount, The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane, the mechanics here can make it to where even a hard mood trail can make people die Ive seen it several times. I've seen many people die to Shiva extreme mechanics, another player said they have only cleared ramuh once, and it doesn't have these mechanics I said in my post I didnt say remove this Im just asking where are just the ground based ones in comparison. And lets not act like lag isnt apart of this game they have had to address this issue several times just sense Ive been playing alone on these type of fights having any lag just makes it a pain.

[JunseiKei]

It makes sense that all the Warring Triad fights are on platforms, given you're so high in the air in Azys Lla, in containment cells. I don't really care if it's a platform with push-off mechanics that will instantly kill you. You don't need to worry about it as long as you handle the mechanics correctly, as others have stated.

And lets not act like lag isnt apart of this game they have had to address this issue several times just sense Ive been playing alone on these type of fights having any lag just makes it a pain.

Lag can happen for several reasons that have nothing to do with SE or the game. It's more than likely to do with your ISP and routing. Or, you're talking about the 3-second server tick that is simply part of the game's design.

[bswpayton]

It makes sense that all the Warring Triad fights are on .

But its pretty different tho , as a tank if I by some chance barely get out of a mechanic and I get hit then fine ill get healed are use a high potion or whatever use a defensive buff. Ill survive, on this type of platform fights if that same hit has a knock back and just knock me off the platform then thats it Im done , so essentially that would make me a bad player because I didnt avoid one hit from a mechanic. That is what the difference is in these platform fights and non platform fights where one mistake will cause you to be completely out of the fight totally, cause you missed that dodge by one tenth of a second it could literally happen to anyone. So the mechanics are totally different here defensive buffs dont actually work if you have just been thrown off the platform.

[JunseiKei]

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If that's happening, it sounds like you're moving too late. First time I encountered this was Titan Extreme, where it forced you to learn that you can't dodge last minute. You never finish casts, you move immediately and there's no such thing as jumping out of mechanics. Everything you do, casting spells, dodging, popping cooldowns or applying things (virus, disable, sacred soil, etc.) has to account for the possibility of a 3 second check (server tick). If you fail that check, you're hit or the affect doesn't apply in time. As long as you keep that in mind and apply things accordingly, you won't die. FFXIV is more timing based and doesn't apply instantly like most other MMOs.

Unless your ping is just that bad, which is something you would need to fix and has nothing to do with SE.

[ErryK]

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You said

I'm just not amazing at these platform fights.

So you have experience, so the "Git Gud", is kind of warranted since you already said you are not amazing at platform fights meaning you've already done some.

[bswpayton]

You said



So you have experience, so the "Git Gud", is kind of warranted since you already said you are not amazing at platform fights meaning you've already done some.

Not with those mention , for one nobody even runs the actual arr primals on my server , so its not like I have had chances to go in do these fights very much as is. Titan extreme is my experience , so I guess if you want to u can just take my experience from that fight to widely cover the rest of them but ok. I was just simply saying can we just have more variety than the same thing yea some people may like platforms may be there thing but they arent the only ones that play the game either just like Im not the only one that plays as well so thats why you mix it up.

[ErryK]

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Fair enough. In my opinion, yes, the platform fights are very saturated at the moment. Just like circle arenas are very saturated in this game (in 3.x; Living Liquid, Manipulator, Ravana, Thordan, Sephirot, etc.) and the issue there is, I believe the dev team learns from each other, or they've just not got ideas they can use otherwise. Like, at least with Zurvan, they are making an attempt in differentiating it from other fights like Titan. Same thing with Sophia and Leviathan. In Leviathan, you had to look for the water spout and go the other way, in Sophia, you have to see if it's odd or even and take into account if she's dashing, etc.

Though in all honesty, I would think we would get new mechanics/setups with 4.0 rather than hoping for change in 3.5x, but in any case, that is why this thread is here I guess.

[Chevronone]

Keep the platforms, its the "look away" mechanic that needs to go. It doesn't even make sense...even with your back turned, your character is till looking at the target over their shoulder...just let me zone out in peace grinding for a dumb pigeon!