Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Etheos]

It sounds like you're the one crying with all your poorly placed spaces, caps-lock, and exclamation points. I'm just expressing my concerns over the fact that they treated this as a beta, and then they will be holding another beta in the future.

Secondly, would it kill you to use a period? If you're going to constructively hold a conversation with someone at least present me with something that a middle school student could articulate.

Lastly, you're correct. They are making the version 2.0 XIV from the ideas and discussions that thousands of disgruntled users posted on the forums. What you're incorrect about, is that it is a new game. Please don't treat it like a new IP, or a new game. It isn't even an expansion. It is the game, that should have been in my 90 dollar collectors edition box, from the very beginning.

That is why charging now is not the right action to take. It further alienates the people who already dislike the game (that this entire 2.0 fix is trying to get back), and it continues the growing loss of interest and trust of the Final Fantasy brand.

As I've stated before, if they offered a 50% reduction in subscription costs until the end of the 2.0 beta, or start the subscription fees after the server fixes/UI were implemented; sure I'd be happy to help show my support for the game. Unfortunately they are just being greedy at this point.

And yes, I'd probably be more satisfied if they kept the game open for free, and then made 2.0 as an expansion pack. First of all, the expansion pack would only be 40 dollars: a reasonable sum. Secondly, they can't get away with that because it would cause more outrage than this debacle has already done. So they're opting for the choice that will get them more money and less hate, because really: who is going to buy an expansion pack that fixes a severely broken and flawed game?

Cool story bro. Nope, SE still doesn't care about your story.

[Isaaru]

Hey guys I got the collector's edition of this game, and then the game sucked so I stopped playing for 2 months. Then I came back and played then stopped playing for another month, then a few weeks here and there. But now the game doesn't suck so I'm going to pay.

・Late November to Early Decemeber, 2011 - Patch 1.20 (and subsequent hotfixes)
⇒Class adjustments (abilities & weaponskills) / Malevolent Moogle (Primal) battle
⇒Achievement system (300+ planned) / Market adjustments / PC search
⇒The continuation of Disciple of the Hand recipe adjustments (HQ items / Repair adjustments


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's what will be added plus more in addition to what we have now when they start to charge because I know all the people complaining about paying didn't fully read the additions until 2.0.

[Wynn]

I would say his initial 60-80$ investment was help. As was his willingness to continue playing when the game flopped. If you don't think they kept the servers up for the past year to get free testers from the community your smoking some good shit. And any post he has ever made that paints the game in a negative or posative light is the very definition of feedback. You amaze me, you basically call the guy a freeloader for playing and not paying. What the hell do you think it is YOU have been doing? ANd looking at your job numbers there I would say you have been doing WAY more freeloading than December ever did. Like a fat kid and cake.

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What good is a tester that doesn't provide feedback? Why that's no tester at all. Derp Man you guys are just coming right out of the wall cracks. It's like a roach infestation.

[Chain]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What good is a tester that doesn't provide feedback? Why that's no tester at all. Derp Man you guys are just coming right out of the wall cracks. It's like a roach infestation.

Hey look its a MAD BRO.

[Narmito]

Secondly, would it kill you to use a period? If you're going to constructively hold a conversation with someone at least present me with something that a middle school student could articulate.

Φιλέ μου

Δεν έχω κανένα πρόβλημα να χρησιμοποιήσω σωστά την γλώσσα μου εν μέσω της γραφής ,ώστε η συζήτηση να είναι ποιο εποικοδομητική. Δυστυχώς τυγχάνει τα αγγλικά μου να μην είναι η μητρική μου γλώσσα , και αυτό καθιστά δύσκολο να μπορώ να επικοινωνήσω ολοκληρωμένα με κάποιον διαφορετικής εθνικότητας από έμενα. Εφόσον ζητάς μια συζήτηση με ανώτερη σχολική μόρφωση βολέψου με την καλύτερη που έχω στα ελληνικά .
Για καλή σου τύχη υπάρχει το Google μεταφραστής .

Δεν κλαίω αγαπητέ μου φιλέ ,ούτε προσπαθώ να υποστηρίξω τα συμφέροντα μιας εταιρείας .Σαν καταναλωτής λοιπόν εκφράζω την δική μου άποψη πάνω στα παράπονα σας . Αν το πρόβλημα σας είναι λοιπόν ότι η εταιρία ζητά χρήματα για ένα κάκιστο παιχνίδι , με κάθε δικαίωμα σας αφήνει την επιλογή να παίξετε το παιχνίδι ( που σας οφείλει) στο μέλλον . Δεν μιλάμε για κάποιο expansion μιλάμε για ένα ολόκληρο παιχνίδι ακριβός όπως το ζητούσαμε όλοι μας . Ποιο ακριβώς είναι το πρόβλημα σου ? Οτι θες να παίξεις το παιχνίδι που η ιδία εταιρία δηλώνει ότι σε ένα χρόνο τις είναι αδύνατον να διορθώσει τα προβλήματα του , και αναγκάζετε να στύση νέους Servers , νέους χάρτες , νέο User Interface , και αλλά πολλά ?

Εφόσον το παιχνίδι δεν είναι έτοιμο γιατί στεναχωριέσαι που σε χρεώνει ? Αφού δεν σου άρεσε και δεν έχει και κάτι άλλο να προσφέρει γιατί δυσανασχετείς που δεν θα μπορείς να παίξεις πια ? . Το παιχνίδι που φτιάχνετε ολοκληρωμένο για εσένα δεν βρίσκετε ακόμα εδω , όταν θα είναι έτοιμο θα σας φωνάξουμε να το παραλάβετε δωρεάν .

καλό βράδυ

με εκτίμηση Narmito

[December]

Φιλέ μου

Δεν έχω κανένα πρόβλημα να χρησιμοποιήσω σωστά την γλώσσα μου εν μέσω της γραφής ,ώστε η συζήτηση να είναι ποιο εποικοδομητική. Δυστυχώς τυγχάνει τα αγγλικά μου να μην είναι η μητρική μου γλώσσα , και αυτό καθιστά δύσκολο να μπορώ να επικοινωνήσω ολοκληρωμένα με κάποιον διαφορετικής εθνικότητας από έμενα. Εφόσον ζητάς μια συζήτηση με ανώτερη σχολική μόρφωση βολέψου με την καλύτερη που έχω στα ελληνικά .
Για καλή σου τύχη υπάρχει το Google μεταφραστής .

Δεν κλαίω αγαπητέ μου φιλέ ,ούτε προσπαθώ να υποστηρίξω τα συμφέροντα μιας εταιρείας .Σαν καταναλωτής λοιπόν εκφράζω την δική μου άποψη πάνω στα παράπονα σας . Αν το πρόβλημα σας είναι λοιπόν ότι η εταιρία ζητά χρήματα για ένα κάκιστο παιχνίδι , με κάθε δικαίωμα σας αφήνει την επιλογή να παίξετε το παιχνίδι ( που σας οφείλει) στο μέλλον . Δεν μιλάμε για κάποιο expansion μιλάμε για ένα ολόκληρο παιχνίδι ακριβός όπως το ζητούσαμε όλοι μας . Ποιο ακριβώς είναι το πρόβλημα σου ? Οτι θες να παίξεις το παιχνίδι που η ιδία εταιρία δηλώνει ότι σε ένα χρόνο τις είναι αδύνατον να διορθώσει τα προβλήματα του , και αναγκάζετε να στύση νέους Servers , νέους χάρτες , νέο User Interface , και αλλά πολλά ?

Εφόσον το παιχνίδι δεν είναι έτοιμο γιατί στεναχώριεστε που σε χρεώνει ? Αφού δεν σου άρεσε και δεν έχει και κάτι άλλο να προσφέρει ώστε να σε χρεώνει κάθε μηνά . Το παιχνίδι που φτιάχνετε ολοκληρωμένο για εσένα δεν βρίσκετε ακόμα εδω , όταν θα είναι έτοιμο θα σας φωνάξουμε να το παραλάβετε δωρεάν .

καλό βράδυ

με εκτίμηση Narmito

And now translated...

Dude

I have no problem to use it properly to my tongue in the midst of writing, that the debate is what constructive. Unfortunately enjoy my English is not my native language, and this makes it difficult to do comprehensive contact with someone of a different ethnicity than me. If you ask for a debate with higher schooling volepsou the best I have in Greek.
For good luck is the Google translator.

Do not cry my dear friend, or trying to support the interests of a company. As consumers we would like to express my opinion on the complaints you. If your problem is therefore that the company asking for money for an appalling game, with all rights leaves you the option to play the game (you must) in the future. Not talking about some expansion talking about an entire game expensive as we all asked. What exactly is your problem; Whatever you want to play the game the same company states that in a year is impossible to fix problems and make them erect new Servers, new maps, new User Interface, and more;

If the game is not ready because they worry that a charge; Since you do not like and does not have anything to offer in order to charge each month. The game builds integrated for you do not find even here, when we are ready we will shout it delivered free.

good evening

by estimating Narmito

[Biggs]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What good is a tester that doesn't provide feedback? Why that's no tester at all. Derp Man you guys are just coming right out of the wall cracks. It's like a roach infestation.

Get a load of Captain Freeloader here.

December has made 63 posts, all that have to do with the game. I would say thats all feedback but you clearly have no understanding of the word. ANd I only roach my way out of the cracks asshole when I smell bullshit, and brother, you reek of it. And since when did posting on this jackass convetion determine your right to play the game? Do you begin to see why random people jump in to call you a jackass? You make it so easy you see.....

[December]

next think you know, SE will release FFXIII Vs and charge $59.99. it will be complete garbage after what, being announced in 2006? Then, they will say "hey guys, a DLC revamping will happen in one year, but you'll have to pay another $59.99 for the DLC".

It's pretty much the same thing happening here.

[Chain]

English must be your second language. I have not threatened or cussed at anyone.

In denial much?

http://tinypic.com/r/9s5r8z/7

[Narmito]

Cool story bro. Nope, SE still doesn't care about your story.

well never cares about your story but always care about your money so thats why create the version 2 ...the version 1 game is for those who like it as it is ...the version 2 is for those that dont feel happy with the version 1 . both type of players are gonna take the game (version 2) free. The only deference is that the players who feel happy with the game at the current state must pay for this enjoy .

so why players that are not happy with the game they want to play .
start to play something else and wait for your version .

all the good things coming with version 2. The version 1 its gonna be almost the same . why do you want to play it so much and ''crying'' about the fees