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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    Actually (since no one else pointed it out), last I checked it was not against ToS to kick people for having a difference in playstyles. You can complain and report all you want, but the gms are very unlikely to do anything about your complaint of getting kicked.
    Then it should be an offence. It encourages bullying. I actually thought there were only a couple of reasons on the kick list. I dont see 'doesnt play how i want him to' there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Then it should be an offence.
    Not how it works. Your ideals aren't SE's rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    It encourages bullying.
    Social expectations to do more than drag your feet in group activities isn't bullying. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Not how it works. Your ideals aren't SE's rules.



    Social expectations to do more than drag your feet in group activities isn't bullying. Sorry.
    Then Im not sure what you do call bullying, or even if you are aware of the many types of bullying that there are. I would say that forcing someone to do things how you want them to is actually bullying. Im not sure if SE has your values either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Then Im not sure what you do call bullying, or even if you are aware of the many types of bullying that there are. I would say that forcing someone to do things how you want them to is actually bullying. Im not sure if SE has your values either
    Actually, the healer part of the Hall of the Novice straight out tells the player to throw out some damage spells during moments of low damage against the party. SE's values are closer to the players that you're arguing against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Then Im not sure what you do call bullying, or even if you are aware of the many types of bullying that there are. I would say that forcing someone to do things how you want them to is actually bullying. Im not sure if SE has your values either
    It is not bullying to remove someone from the group if they are refusing to contribute as much as others (and since you're likely to bring it up again, this doesn't apply to people who are actively trying to contribute in a meaningful way, only to the people who choose not be helpful while they could). In fact, it could be argued it's "bullying" to selfishly refuse to be helpful to your group and hold everyone back. Giving good advice on how one can improve their performance isn't bullying either (as long as it's not done in an offensive manner).

    No one has to accept leeches in their party because they claim it's their chosen playstyle.
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    Last edited by Taika; 01-05-2017 at 06:21 PM.

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    Im not sure wether its worth posting any points at all here, because Im not sure if people read what is said. Things just seem to be taken out of context or bits are taken out of discussions just to negate or criticize someone else's view or experience of the game. It doesnt even seem as if you actually, play on the ground with the majority of players or are in some kind of bubble where you just play with friends all the time. Where everyone is tolerant and uderstanding of other's difficulties, where everyone knows wether anyone else is slacking or trying, and everyone has no difficulty playing how someone else wants them to play cos we should all want to play the same way right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    'doesnt play how i want him to'
    What is: "completely missing the point and trying to demonize the other side?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    What is: "completely missing the point and trying to demonize the other side?"
    Hmm all Ive seen so far is healers that dont dps demonized, Im just pointing out their side of things too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Hmm all Ive seen so far is healers that dont dps demonized, Im just pointing out their side of things too.
    Where though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    Where though?
    You serious? Or just not seen all the posts that state that healers who heal are idle, or being carried etc.
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