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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    To actually try to contribute to this thread....This has become a flame war against healers. A healer that only heals is playing their role as intended. If they only throw out heals and there aren't any wipes, then job done. Is it optimal game play? Absolutely not. Would it go by faster if they did dps? Absolutely. Just my 2 cents.
    I wish I could have liked this post more than once. That was basically the point that I was trying to make.

    I don't see why people want to argue about this? o_O
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    Actually (since no one else pointed it out), last I checked it was not against ToS to kick people for having a difference in playstyles. You can complain and report all you want, but the gms are very unlikely to do anything about your complaint of getting kicked.
    Then it should be an offence. It encourages bullying. I actually thought there were only a couple of reasons on the kick list. I dont see 'doesnt play how i want him to' there
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Then it should be an offence.
    Not how it works. Your ideals aren't SE's rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    It encourages bullying.
    Social expectations to do more than drag your feet in group activities isn't bullying. Sorry.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    'doesnt play how i want him to'
    What is: "completely missing the point and trying to demonize the other side?"
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Your complaint appears to be valid, but the subject of your complaint is more accurately described as "bad players trying to tell me what to do." Optimal healer gameplay is not one or both healers deciding to go HAM on what they feel like doing and leaving their partner to do 100% of what they didn't feel like doing.

    If the AST hadn't set you up to be in a bad spot by refusing to do their part, and if they had been able to do their job correctly, you wouldn't have had such a problem. The bit about good healers using their full kits goes both ways; no good healer tunnels in exclusively on healing or on DPS.
    Ahh your both seeing the difficulteis ensuing from the expections of others. Added to the fact that ppeople just like complaining about other people. What better way than to complain about a healer that doesnt dps. Such an easy way to bully someone. Everyone's bound to agree
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    What is: "completely missing the point and trying to demonize the other side?"
    Hmm all Ive seen so far is healers that dont dps demonized, Im just pointing out their side of things too.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Not how it works. Your ideals aren't SE's rules.



    Social expectations to do more than drag your feet in group activities isn't bullying. Sorry.
    Then Im not sure what you do call bullying, or even if you are aware of the many types of bullying that there are. I would say that forcing someone to do things how you want them to is actually bullying. Im not sure if SE has your values either
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Then it should be an offence. It encourages bullying. I actually thought there were only a couple of reasons on the kick list. I dont see 'doesnt play how i want him to' there
    Does not mean people can't kick for differences in playstyle. I've seen plenty of topics like this on the forums, some where they have quotes from gms. And it does not encourage bullying. I pay a sub, just like you and many others. If you are holding everyone back, because "that's not how I like to play" and everyone in the group wants someone to find a healer who plays like them, they have that right.
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  9. #89
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    Wants to find a healer who***
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  11. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Hmm all Ive seen so far is healers that dont dps demonized, Im just pointing out their side of things too.
    Where though?
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