Please lift glamour restrictions!

[Wanzer]

Why being against it ? I mean it does not affect you directly does it ? If you don't want to glam a healer piece on you BLM just....don't ^^"

It's not just about a random healer piece, Celef. I'm totally ok with lifting restrictions from everything but the AFs; because they aren't just random clothes. Most of the thread is about "we want everything, if we don't have everything then that means we have nothing". Even if the AFs don't even represent 10% of the entire gear available.

And yes, would be great to be able to wear the version of the Hempen Camise that we want.

We've reached a point where creativity is needlessly stifled and everyone looks the same, which is a no-no in any game that allows a player to supposedly customize their player avatar.

That's... Still not really a good reason (or excuse) for breaking things. Mostly because people have a limited creativity actually. Like... Here, a good example of what i keep seeing everywhere everytime :

I'm not saying it's a bad glamour, but people keep coming with the same things no matter what ; and removing what makes the AF unique won't change this.

So far, we are mostly all agree with lifting restrictions on most of the gear sets. But it's never enough because... Reasons ? Because someone wants some specific boots from another job, or someone else the gloves or whatever. I really like what the AFs are, and i'm still amazed to see people whining even if we are agree with removing restrictions on everything, but not on a few gear sets who have a real meaning for most of us and the dev team.

And again, we should ask for more diversity for the next gears than removing what make the AFs what they are ; this is also one of the main issues about the glamour system. But... Just imagine if they choose to remove most of the restrictions but not on the AFs, wouldn't it be already something great ? And mostly unlimited ?
Even if i'm sure people would keep coming with the hempen camise, the skirt and long boots. Haha


edit : Damn, Miste, i'm too slow... ;A;

[Miste]

edit : Damn, Miste, i'm too slow... ;A;

No you're noooottt! I like reading your posts

But yeah there is quite a few of us totally fine as long as just the job locked gear stays locked to the jobs they represent. Like I've said I understand why people want more freedom to glamour; it is a lot of fun. Its just the game has made concessions already that mess with lore and tradition so it would be nice to keep the job locked gear at least.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I'd rather not remove a single restriction. Doing so would just start a slippery slope, and sooner or later people would start whining again about how they can't use AF specific pieces.

[bswpayton]

I'd rather not remove a single restriction. Doing

Well they need to be removed, we have 13 different jobs, so why not let us be creative, I'm of the mind now even tho on this post more people are in favor of op that Af gear doesn't really matter to me that much. So if its some people that would get so upset about it then leave it as is, but we need to be able to have the whole job specific gear restrictions removed. Like everyone says it ruins creativity, if you want to play jobs with a specific look its plenty of other games where you can only wear certain gear based on the job you picked at the beginning of the game. Other people here that love their Af gear at least would compromise with allowing glamour of everything else, you just seem to be stuck on making us play this game like its another game where you only get one job option per story line run and can only wear that one specific classes gear.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

, you just seem to be stuck on making us play this game.

Conversely, your stuck on making people like me, that like the restrictions the way they are, play the game like it's literally every other MMO where visual identity is meaningless because anyone can look like anything. I don't like those other mmo's because invariably every option becomes a carbon copy of everything else, because it's all generic. What's stifling people's creativity isn't the glamour system in place, it's themselves.

[RaijinSupreme]

It's definitely not going to be removed anyway.

I would love it if they removed the restrictions for the crafting sets so I can actually use them on my Ironworks gear, but because of the downward spiral it would inevitably create, I can understand why they won't.

Having limits doesn't really stifle creativity, it just sets the playing field in which you are allowed to explore. I wish there were many things in this game that were open and free to do whatever we wanted with, but it will just become too chaotic.

and I know that it's just glamour, it's not game breaking or anything, but allowing too much freedom in anything can be detrimental in the long run.

You can't allow some freedoms, any deny others. it will cause backlash, and then it would too late to take back any of it. and seeing how important glamour is to the community, it can truly break the game in the end.

[bswpayton]

Conversely, your stuck on making people like me, that like the restrictions the way they are, play the game like it's literally every other MMO where visual identity is meaningless because anyone can look like anything. I don't like those other mmo's because invariably every option becomes a carbon copy of everything else, because it's all generic. What's stifling people's creativity isn't the glamour system in place, it's themselves.

On what other game can a tank wear caster gears appearance and not lose stat points. I know you've seen it the one dress with the sides open on the legs and the stomach showing. This is basically like the go to for a lot of casters its horrible I see to many people in this same outfit, all the time, are like the level 1 weaver shirt that also shows the stomach, or the very formal looking dress thats also a level 1 item.

Meanwhile, as long as it doesnt have anything class specific on it tanks can literally glam anything that they want in the game, how can you say that this option is ok for tanks but for healers or casters its not. If a tank can wear a robe, then a healer should be able to wear a chest piece especially guy characters, Im sure the glam options on a caster is even worse for them. So what are you talkin about other games have much more of the type of system that you want restrictions on everything with limited glaming options, if you are a tank you can only wear heavy armor, if you are a caster you can only wear light armor.

In this game one discipline can wear all three disciplines gear, and the other can wear at least two with the dragoon even having some tank gear options, casters are just left in the dust. But how with these options is it traditional , like you are saying Im not following this you keep saying it but you arent really providing an answer for what you mean exactly.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Snip.

I have no idea what robe you're talking about, at all. I've never seen any robe with the stomach open. I know that there's a robe with the split sides, but that's the healer exclusive Valerian Shaman's robe. Casters already have some choice for armor pieces in the game if they so desire, people just don't look.