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  1. #1451
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Until I actually encounter a bad player at endgame who used a jump potion and who has no idea how to play. I cant really complain about them. So many unknown variables. How many people will use jump potions in the west? How many people will use it on your server alone?
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  2. #1452
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Until I actually encounter a bad player at endgame who used a jump potion and who has no idea how to play. I cant really complain about them. So many unknown variables. How many people will use jump potions in the west? How many people will use it on your server alone?
    While it might not create an overabundance of bad players. We can say for certainty that it will create a new kind of player. A player who never experienced the game before stormblood and will have had an entirely different play experience to the current players. What this will cause, nobody has the foresight to say for certain, but there will be a knock on effect, both narrative and community wise, and knowing this community, it won't be pretty.
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  3. #1453
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    I don't know a thing about business, maybe it will harm the game in the long run but FFXIV has its audience now, I'd rather devs pander to us who have stuck around for a good 3 years, even 5 for those that played during 1.0 as opposed to little timmy from WoW who will most likely only play for a week or two. I do think they really shot themselves in the foot with 2.0 questing though where I guess it does feel like WoW 2.0 with its boar butt collecting questing.
    I think you're making the assumption that all 1.0 players are opposed to jump potions, which isn't true.
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  4. #1454
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    I don't know a thing about business, maybe it will harm the game in the long run but FFXIV has its audience now, I'd rather devs pander to us who have stuck around for a good 3 years, even 5 for those that played during 1.0 as opposed to little timmy from WoW who will most likely only play for a week or two. I do think they really shot themselves in the foot with 2.0 questing though where I guess it does feel like WoW 2.0 with its boar butt collecting questing.
    Always funny seeing people mocking wow in other mmo's.
    It was because they remade it and played it safe this game is still alive to begin with.
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    Last edited by Assirra; 01-03-2017 at 09:58 AM.

  5. #1455
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    Nova Wildstar
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 94
    I would commit great bodily harm for a Jump Potion right now.

    I have been through the MSQ, through 3.x, once. Dragoon and White Mage.

    I quit for about 6 months. Cancelled my service account. Because I burned out. I dropped out before completing a full run through 1st Alex.

    I know much of the MSQ; I know my jobs. I came back in because Stormblood and Red Mage sound like fun.

    But I am NOT looking forward to running this new persona all the way back up through the MSQ - especially the !@#$! runaround getting through to the Titan fight.

    I would LOVE being able to boost past the 1-50 MSQ - and the main questline 51-60, if allowed, including Aether Currents - because grinding back up through a story I can now recite in my sleep, is not my idea of great fun.

    Yes, you can say I never should have cancelled, and this is the price I pay - but I'd like to pay a more physical price, and skip right back to the main stage.
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  6. #1456
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I just have one request. Limit jump potions to one on every persons account. That way they can't be abused, and they serve the purpose that they are meant for.
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  7. #1457
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarPrime View Post
    Yes, you can say I never should have cancelled, and this is the price I pay - but I'd like to pay a more physical price, and skip right back to the main stage.
    Its not even that... This isn't a valid argument to implement jump potions. Next time don't delete your character, there is literlly no benefit to it, you can unsub and your character will still be there if you ever come back. I don't want you to be punished, but your request has huge ramifications for such a specific problem.
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  8. #1458
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    Utopian Galt
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    Excalibur
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    I think we need a hall of the novice intermediate quest series for people who use jump potions to help teach players the fundamentals. Such as a lvl 30 and perhaps a lvl 50 quest series.
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  9. #1459
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Keep asking for a "Hall of Intermediate", it won't make people better. Hall of Novice proved as such.
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  10. #1460
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I do not want jump potions for either the story or job levels, but if they absolutely must be added, I think it would be best if they could only be used if you have already cleared the story once on some character on the account for the story potion, and you can only use that job's potion if you have already fully leveled up that job on some character on the account for the job potion. Yes, this prevents new players from getting into the game and just jump skipping to the end, and that's the point. Jump potions, for the NA region, should only be used for when you want to make an alt, even if on another server, to play with other people and you don't want to transfer your main. Forcing players to go through the story at least once and level whatever job they want to jump with to max at least once will be the most healthy for the game in our region, in my opinion.
    This defeats the entire point of a skip potion. Most people don't even bother with a second character due to us having every job on one. They want to skip the enormous grind either to play with friends or because they simply find the MSQ boring. Forcing players through the MSQ accomplishes nothing. It doesn't teach you anything worthless and someone who doesn't give a damn about the story or lore is just going to skip every cut scene anyway.
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