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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    At this point I'm not even sure you play Final Fantasy XIV.
    Yes I do but I also am not gona act like just because I do separate quest, and have to have a soul crystal that Im not more than one job. You may over look this but I do not, Im still my same character even if Im playing different jobs on it.

    This game has a rp community as well I rp, Im not just gona pick up 13 jobs and not try to tie them together there is no need to because if I was playing any other game then it would be set and stone that I was only one class. What lifting the gear restrictions would do for me personally is to for instance, my whm could be a caster version of my palidan, my blm could be a caster version of my drk, my warrior could be my astro in tank form.

    I do this already but like ive said a few time casters cant wear heavy armour, so this is why Im not opposed to the ops idea. So yes lifting these restrictions you be beneifical for someone who actually cares to make sense of the job system in ths game by not making them so separate when by nature they cant be because your doing them all one the same charcter Im sorry that you disagree with this. I know what game Im playing and I play this game because I grew up playing 7 through 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im sorry that you disagree with this. I know what game Im playing and I play this game because I grew up playing 7 through 10.
    Thank you for clearing up that you have never played a Final Fantasy game with a job system. It at least explains some of the outright baffling things you've been saying in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    Thank you for clearing up that you have never played a Final Fantasy game with a job system. It at least explains some of the outright baffling things you've been saying in this thread.
    Yea cause you are referring to ff 11 , sorry I didnt play that one , I play this one and this one doesnt explain the job system and cant expect that everyone has played 11. And also that yea Ive played ff but everyone who plays this game hasnt so you cant expect everyone to be a die hard lore fan like you are.

    Others just simply want glamour options, and arent as concerned about the lore from other games as you seem to be. This is an mmo so sometimes devs have to do some things that other mmos do to appeal to a bigger audience than just ff life long players.

    And the devs have shown that they are willing to make such changes already as you keep saying you dont even like the current system as it is now, well other people do. Im sure if you maintain the attitude you have about appealing to a bigger audience is a problem in this game then you are eventually not gona like it very much because its an mmo and this game will do what they need to do for mass appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Yea cause you are referring to ff 11 , sorry I didnt play that one , I play this one and this one doesnt explain the job system and cant expect that everyone has played 11. And also that yea Ive played ff but everyone who plays this game hasnt so you cant expect everyone to be a die hard lore fan like you are.
    The job system exists since way before FFXI. FF III and V, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    The job system exists since way before FFXI. FF III and V, for example.
    Sorry i was three when ff 5 came out , my bad and I thought I was playing this game not those. This one is a mass appeal mmo that has lore in it but its not gona let lore effect game play forever, hence why they are adding a leveling potion to skip all the lore in the game. Because its called appeal to the masses, and wanting to be a profitable business like other mmos.

    Sometimes you just have to get over yourself and realize that one way isnt the only way, still Im the only wana that keeps going on but the original post has more likes for the ops suggestion than not. And I believe that its alot more where that came from because this is a game not a set of laws that you have to go buy to play ,its suppose to be fun. Lore is not the law of the land its just not and it cant always get in the way of player options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    A) You don't have to play the games when they come out. I've played FFV in 2002 with an emulator on PC.
    B) All the "mass appealing" you want. It's a Final Fantasy game in the end. Lore and tradition come first. Deal with it.
    C) This is not Facebook and 40 likes are nothing compared to the huge amount of players that are in-game.
    D) Google "White Mage" and share the results, please. You'll notice a pattern and that's why Square-Enix, the company than owns the Final Fantasy franchise, want to keep the job's identity. It's part of their product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Yea cause you are referring to ff 11 , sorry I didnt play that one , I play this one and this one doesnt explain the job system and cant expect that everyone has played 11.
    The job system exists in 1, 3, 5, 10-2, 11, 12, as well as various other spin-off titles such as Final Fantasy Tactics. 11 was not the only example of the job system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    Thank you for clearing up that you have never played a Final Fantasy game with a job system. It at least explains some of the outright baffling things you've been saying in this thread.
    IX had a job system, but she either did not play it, did not pay much attention to it, or was too young to adopt the concept of the job system at the time. FFVII, VIII, and X basically allowed every character to learn everything, and the only thing that separated the characters from one another was their looks and limit breaks.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    This game has a rp community as well I rp, Im not just gona pick up 13 jobs and not try to tie them together there is no need to because if I was playing any other game then it would be set and stone that I was only one class. What lifting the gear restrictions would do for me personally is to for instance, my whm could be a caster version of my palidan, my blm could be a caster version of my drk, my warrior could be my astro in tank form.

    I do this already but like ive said a few time casters cant wear heavy armour, so this is why Im not opposed to the ops idea. So yes lifting these restrictions you be beneifical for someone who actually cares to make sense of the job system in ths game by not making them so separate when by nature they cant be because your doing them all one the same charcter Im sorry that you disagree with this. I know what game Im playing and I play this game because I grew up playing 7 through 10.
    The RP community is one of the biggest reasons why the status quo needs to remain that way. If you had played any FF installment prior to VII you would have a better understanding of why it is utterly ridiculous to see a WHM in DRG AF armor healing a group. Forget all the pig suits, bikinis, reindeer costumes, jump potions, and illusions. This is about maintaining the integrity and image of the franchise. THAT is what you're contesting, and you will never win. Like ever. And when players such as yourself keep using the costumes to structure your arguments, it makes we wish SE never would have released them. Not because of any substance it may or may not have, but because SE gave you an inch, and you take a mile. There are SOOOOO many options available to you, but you want the one that you can't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    And when players such as yourself keep using the costumes to structure your arguments, it makes we wish SE never would have released them. Not because of any substance it may or may not have, but because SE gave you an inch, and you take a mile. There are SOOOOO many options available to you, but you want the one that you can't have.
    Beautifully stated. Given the opportunity to voice their desires, the greedy child asks for everything under the sun. Better parenting is needed to correct this attitude lest the child mature into an adult with an unrealistic outlook on how the world works.

    You cannot have everything, because everything takes time. This dev time could be much better spent elsewhere, not continuing to appease the greedy child who will never be satisfied anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    IX had a job system, but she either did not play it, did not pay much attention to it, or was too young to adopt the concept of the job system at the
    But they did tho, and Im not against lore I love the story line of this game I play the game because of the lore but to me gear glamour is just that glamour. I just was talkin to a fc mate thats a monk and he had on a robe and a snow man head did it bother me that he was wearing this no it did not.

    Just like it wouldnt bother you if a whm had on a full metal gear set, so Im not tryin to get rid of lore. Wat I want is all glamour options available because thats an extra feature of the game that doesnt effect the lore of the game only to those that get upset that its not following the tradition of games that arent this game. Have you played 15 because there is nothing you cant wear in that game because you can pretty much do everything and this is what Im saying you can do all things on this one so why not allow us to wear anything we want its not that big of a deal.

    And Im going to assume that everyone that plays this game doesnt have a drk leveled up because it was never a tank until this game and thats against the lore of the past games before it. So Im sure you would never play a job that totally changed the lore of the old ones right?
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