A cry to the community

[Sephrick]

you get voke at 10...by level 30, you should know what it does. Same with Cover.

Yes, we should know all about how it and Taunt and Warmonger are useless. I even have the Marauder trait that gives a 10% hate increase and mobs still ignore my Vokes.

This game isn't based around parties right now, it's based around "get in a group and kill shit as fast as possible."

Saying "party" brings to mind that there's some sense of structure and communication.

[Aleczan]

If a person insists upon playing in a party as he pleases without trying to accommodate the party and do the role in the party, they should go back to solo or duo or whatever, so they won't get in the way of a party or ruin it for everyone in the party.

Also, people who want to be in a party should KNOW, or at least be willing to LEARN to play as a team player. Period.


Also, I wish I could "like" this opinion 10 times. 1 like is not enough.

Players don't need to be perfect but should at least know how to use their skills.

To the OP: Seems like you just ran into a bad player. Bad luck of you. This is why I don't party with strangers. You never know if the person is going to screw your party or not. Better luck next time! And let me tell you a story.

Back in FFXI, I used to run into a party where tank refused to Provoke. Mages kept dying because the only person with Provoke wouldn't provoke whatsoever. He didn't want to get hit and risk dying, he said. He insisted upon not provoking and ignored whatever reason and party mechanism we tried so hard to explain.

So we decided that BLM and melee DD should stop pulling hate and just let the monster stay on the guy, and WHM must stop curing UNLESS the tank provokes. We told him if he wants a Cure he must Provoke. He asked why WHM is not curing him, we have the WHM reply "Because I don't want to get hit. I get hit when I cure you."

And we cured him only when he used Provoke, seriously. After dying a few times and losing a large amount of EXP, he learnt to tank properly and started to use Provoke on regular basis.

[Isanien]

Please learn your classes.

The game is now based primarily around parties. Don't get to 30+ in a Gladiator and not know what Provoke is and expect me to NOT kick you from the party. The same goes for CNJ and healing...for the love of god, learn your roles...please...

If people are going to "learn their roles" for partying, then first you have to allow for parties to happen so people can get some practice. At least in my experience, it's been veeeery difficult to get low level parties.
Also, people who have more experience with certain party roles should lend a hand to those who don't. It really doesn't take that long, especially when people are willing to listen. It bothers me a ton when people just say "omg n00b" and kick people or leave the party without even providing constructive feedback.

[Viridiana]

Yes, we should know all about how it and Taunt and Warmonger are useless. I even have the Marauder trait that gives a 10% hate increase and mobs still ignore my Vokes.

This game isn't based around parties right now, it's based around "get in a group and kill shit as fast as possible."

Saying "party" brings to mind that there's some sense of structure and communication.

That's only really true for grind parties. Provoke, Taunt, and Warmonger are godsends for content that actually requires a tank. Really, Provoke is great any time your dps or healer needs some breathing room.

[Etheos]

Please learn your classes.

The game is now based primarily around parties. Don't get to 30+ in a Gladiator and not know what Provoke is and expect me to NOT kick you from the party. The same goes for CNJ and healing...for the love of god, learn your roles...please...

Cool story bro.

[Taokii]

Now based primarily around parties? I have honestly no clue what you are talking about. With the exception of "end-game" quests and dungeons that require four people you really don't NEED to have a huge party. My friend and I duo together all the time and have never had a problem.

[Synthesis]

well it's true, is it not? GLA gets voke at 10 and cover at 22....how can you honestly be 30+ and not know what those skills are when you are asked to use them in a party?

PWRLVL 1-30+ afk ! SE fixed this method of pwrlvl (in 1.19a) when lvl 50 beated train of mobs, thank god its fixed now, so its less abusable at least.

[Vahzl]

I have GLA at 25, I have not once drawn my sword and I don't have a shield.

Power levelled to this point, but im sure it won't take me more than a few moments to understand what I have available to me, and how to hold threat, ex Career Ninja/Paladin.