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    Tricksters spin a web of deception, twisting the flow of battle to their advantage.
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    If it is a DPS, we tanks will be the LORS of the Duty Finder (Even more). I can see Party Finder like "You tired of 80+minutes of Duty. 100000K and I wil run you all this day!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    There is 0 hints about Samurai in the game.


    But I mean, that's just idle musings. I mean, who would believe he'd actually add red mage after saying something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KHMarie View Post
    There is also some evidence to back Raubahn himself being a Blue Mage already, like him using the weapons Tizona which is a BLU specific weapon in XI. He's considered the Bull of Ala Mhigo and he uses abilities that one could relate to primals. He was also once upon a time a dual wielder.
    Raubhan having anything to do with FFXIV's potential Blue Mages is an incredible reach. His feats we've seen have more in common with Warrior's and their Inner Beast than anything else, and his animal motif is nothing considering he got it from the bloodsands, coliseum fighting, where PvP armor has similar animal motifs as well. The fact he once dual wielded as well is also entirely irrelevant, as the only game Blue mages have done so in was FFXI, and it wasn't even a trait natural to them initially. If you keep going off BLU from FFXI, then it makes the most sense to put them in a Thavnair/Radz-at-Han expansion, which is a place we'd likely go to far sooner than Othard.

    That's like saying MCH should use dual pistols because Merlwyb uses 2 pistols. Yet MCH almost nothing to do with Merlwyb in the slightest. Just like despite Yugiri being a Ninja, we actually don't get the abilities she's shown to use. Special characters usually have nothing to do with our actual Jobs in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Ilberd used a discontinued Gladiator ability from 1.0, Red Lotus Blade. While that's a weaponskill available to RDM in XI, I wouldn't really call it a straight hint in XIV.
    Ilberd did not use Red Lotus Blade. The ability he used looked nothing like the 1.0 ability, and in HW we see the move he uses is called Sanguine Blade, which is usually a Dark Knight ability, though in XI it was used by pretty much anything that could wield a sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post


    But I mean, that's just idle musings. I mean, who would believe he'd actually add red mage after saying something like that?
    Still does not fit in this expansion at all what so ever, again unless I am missing something in the story and side quests? It would fit in more with 5.0. They also said doomtrain is coming in that Dev Panel event..and he also confirmed not till 5.0 lol.

    So I am looking for something in the recent story, as I originally said..like AST, NIN and MCH. So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore? Again, I'll say my examples..how the AST was in the towers, MCH guild...etc....

    Sorry, I am not saying its NOT coming, I am just asking if it was mentioned like how the other jobs were in the story and how it fits in ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Still does not fit in this expansion at all what so ever, again unless I am missing something in the story and side quests? It would fit in more with 5.0. They also said doomtrain is coming in that Dev Panel event..and he also confirmed not till 5.0 lol.

    So I am looking for something in the recent story, as I originally said..like AST, NIN and MCH. So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore? Again, I'll say my examples..how the AST was in the towers, MCH guild...etc....

    Sorry, I am not saying its NOT coming, I am just asking if it was mentioned like how the other jobs were in the story and how it fits in ^^;
    Ninja didnt fit in until they added it. they had to add story to add it :P

    AST was a sharlayan thing, supposed to be hidden from the rest, they werent in the towers. the sharlayans hunted the 2 that came to eorzea for that very reason. even machinist was a new thing thought up by the ishgardians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore?
    The one comment about Doomtrain from that event was from a single NPC making a comment about misplacing his Doomtrain minion. Not the same thing as the director saying "yeah, these two jobs would be nice for the expansion" and having one of them be confirmed.

    For in-game lore, the current Legatus we've been going against this entire expansion uses a katana and fights in a similar style to previous FF Samurai (think Jack, X-2, and XI.)

    The MCH guild was not in the game until 3.0. What you're thinking of is the cut MSK guild, which isn't the same thing.

    Furthermore, if you're going to say "oh the Ishgardian astrology tower was CLEARLY a prelude to the wildly different Sharlayan-style astrologians we become in 3.0" then I'm sorry to say but you're reaching really, reeeeeeeally hard there. You could point to any part of the map and claim that's foreshadowing for future jobs -- Merchant! Dancer! Shepherd (this one DID have a guild in 1.0 too!) Necromancer! Demonologist!

    Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
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    Ninja fit in just fine the way they added it tho - they hinted it at it so long ago with Thancred and Doma. The doman's came and brought ninja, hehe so at least they fit it in before ^^

    Their story was slowly introduced..it wasn't just oh bam here is the job with 0 back story or info in prior MSQ. That is what I am saying...we are nearing the end of 3.x and there has been no lead up to SAM.

    and yes the AST were mentioned and hinted at, my boyfriend was telling me about AST before Yoshida mentioned it...I mean, how would he know..just lucky guess and made up the job and it matched what Yoshida released? >.> He was saying from a loooong time ago that we are getting Astrologian

    The MCH guild was in 1.0 since day one. I played 1.0 and have screens of the sign..and he said tons of times he will give us our Muskateer in 1.x days.... I mean see, it was at least hinted at in some manner. >_<


    There has been 0 sign of any Samurai in Erozea in the story...

    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    The one comment about Doomtrain from that event was from a single NPC making a comment about misplacing his Doomtrain minion. Not the same thing as the director saying "yeah, these two jobs would be nice for the expansion" and having one of them be confirmed.

    For in-game lore, the current Legatus we've been going against this entire expansion uses a katana and fights in a similar style to previous FF Samurai (think Jack, X-2, and XI.)

    The MCH guild was not in the game until 3.0. What you're thinking of is the cut MSK guild, which isn't the same thing.

    Furthermore, if you're going to say "oh the Ishgardian astrology tower was CLEARLY a prelude to the wildly different Sharlayan-style astrologians we become in 3.0" then I'm sorry to say but you're reaching really, reeeeeeeally hard there. You could point to any part of the map and claim that's foreshadowing for future jobs -- Merchant! Dancer! Shepherd (this one DID have a guild in 1.0 too!) Necromancer! Demonologist!
    Yea but what I am asking is where is the story and lore for SAM so far. At least you can find tidbits in the game about dancer, rdm, etc etc all these jobs.

    And yes that is what I mean, from the MSK guild we knew some type of gun job was coming because Yoshida promised he would put it in the first expansion, so while it was not MSK...it was still along the lines of what he mentioned since the 1.x days on the forums since the very first few live letters.

    I do know he said he wants SAM in here...but I feel like I am just repeating myself endlessly...where is SAM mentioned in the lore? I am not asking how the other jobs are NOT Mentioned, I am asking where is samurai mentioned in the story and/or quests, etc?

    I usually keep up well with the lore and I have personally never seen it mentioned...maybe I missed something? That is what I am asking.

    and you mean this guy? - http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zenos_yae_Galvus

    It does look like it could be a Great Katana...but hmm but the Legatus weapons are nothing to go by, they have always been unique to them. We do not have ANY weapons that they have ever used. So if anything, this would show even less of a chance..or making even less sense of getting the job cuz this guy has the weapon lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
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    If that's true, then saying that we'd be getting Samurai because the main antagonist could potentially be one would be in the same boat. Just because he could be a Samurai doesn't mean we'd get to, yeah? All I am saying is there is quite a bit to say that BLU could be a potential candidate, and I don't think Yoshi-P would show is Japanese audience a Spider-man shirt expecting them to assume it to be Samurai based of of something extremely discreet like a directors name. Most people in that audience will more than likely come to the conclusion of Blue Mage. Could be right? Or it could be them going to great lengths to confuse people. I wouldn't put it past them, but I think it'd still be nice to see BLU considering how much they could work with.
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