DF Tanks and Whm

[SundayTrash]

Considering as a 257 pld, in just sword oath on a dummy, I can only stay at 1300 for 3:15 before running entirely out of TP, I'm not sure how you can expect this to be a normal thing in DF.

u can recover ur tp during downtime

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

u can recover ur tp during downtime

But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.

[SundayTrash]

But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.

ya but we're not talking about max dps, we're talking about acceptable dps.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

ya but we're not talking about max dps, we're talking about acceptable dps.

From my point of view as a PLD, you are asking for max DPS. Which tank are you getting "easily over 1k dps in a9-12" cuz I bet it isnt pld

[SundayTrash]

From my point of view as a PLD, you are asking for max DPS. Which tank are you getting "easily over 1k dps in a9-12" cuz I bet it isnt pld

any tank can do it

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

any tank can do it

Considering most dps (tanks included) pad their numbers with AOE damage, and pld only has circle of scorn for an aoe, you aren't likely to see a PLD that can match the numbers of a DRK or WAR outside of a training dummy.

[PArcher]

Considering most dps (tanks included) pad their numbers with AOE damage, and pld only has circle of scorn for an aoe, you aren't likely to see a PLD that can match the numbers of a DRK or WAR outside of a training dummy.

Well, mt group's PLD can do over 1800 DPS in A9S, main tanking (so not even padding with Scorn). 260 weapon too. WHM goes AST for 9S, but he's basically just AoEing his cards ( ). Oh, and no MCH (extra sadface)

Sure, I'm pulling well over that as WAR, and DRK can do more as well, but to say PLD can't do well over 1K DPS is silly

[Ilan]

But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.

It is possible to have 1300 dps or more in all of the alex normals only a9 will bring you into problems with your tp since you don't have a downtime.

And SundayTrash if you go as a tank with randoms and you never die, you can consider you lucky. I start most of the time as a dps in there and do 1 or 2 runs and switch on tank because tanks annoy me, but its rare for me to be able to drop the tank stance because the healers are most of the time not able to keep me alive. And yes i know how to play my tanks.

The point is that you can't expect high dps numbers of DF players in general since you will always have players who don't play their classes like you or i do. If i want a tank in DF who deals more dps than 700 i have to do it myself but that doesn't change the problem that i'll find healers who can't heal me or that i'll find dps who deal less dps then me. So nothing will really change except that the stuff will be tanked properly and that i do more dps than the actual dps if the healers are ok.