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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Considering as a 257 pld, in just sword oath on a dummy, I can only stay at 1300 for 3:15 before running entirely out of TP, I'm not sure how you can expect this to be a normal thing in DF.
    u can recover ur tp during downtime
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayTrash View Post
    u can recover ur tp during downtime
    But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.
    ya but we're not talking about max dps, we're talking about acceptable dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayTrash View Post
    ya but we're not talking about max dps, we're talking about acceptable dps.
    From my point of view as a PLD, you are asking for max DPS. Which tank are you getting "easily over 1k dps in a9-12" cuz I bet it isnt pld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But your dps does down over time, especially downtime. Sure you gain tp, but you will already have lower dps. so saying this doesnt solve the problem.
    It is possible to have 1300 dps or more in all of the alex normals only a9 will bring you into problems with your tp since you don't have a downtime.

    And SundayTrash if you go as a tank with randoms and you never die, you can consider you lucky. I start most of the time as a dps in there and do 1 or 2 runs and switch on tank because tanks annoy me, but its rare for me to be able to drop the tank stance because the healers are most of the time not able to keep me alive. And yes i know how to play my tanks.

    The point is that you can't expect high dps numbers of DF players in general since you will always have players who don't play their classes like you or i do. If i want a tank in DF who deals more dps than 700 i have to do it myself but that doesn't change the problem that i'll find healers who can't heal me or that i'll find dps who deal less dps then me. So nothing will really change except that the stuff will be tanked properly and that i do more dps than the actual dps if the healers are ok.
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    Last edited by Ilan; 12-22-2016 at 09:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    go ahead and kick/heckle me because I was in tank stance so my DPS isn't "acceptable". I have no issue filing that report.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    go ahead and kick/heckle me because I was in tank stance so my DPS isn't "acceptable". I have no issue filing that report.
    And you'll be told "playstyle differences"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    go ahead and kick/heckle me because I was in tank stance so my DPS isn't "acceptable". I have no issue filing that report.
    And as long as someone said something to you about it being a difference in playstyle before doing it - have fun with that report doing zilch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    go ahead and kick/heckle me because I was in tank stance so my DPS isn't "acceptable". I have no issue filing that report.
    No one with a little bit of brain will flame you in the chat for your dps and kick you then. If someone does that he deserves the report just because he is stupid and for not knowing for what a parser should be used in general.

    You will just be kicked without knowing why or with the different playstyle reason. You can file a ton of reports for that and nothing will happen because this is a legit reason for SE to kick someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Dr Yeol
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    You will hardly find people that bring out jobs full potential in DF, even at level 60.

    I've already explained why in an older thread.
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

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