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    Just the idea "dark healer" has always made no sense to me. People on the dark side aren't really concerned with saving lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Just the idea "dark healer" has always made no sense to me. People on the dark side aren't really concerned with saving lives.
    Dark and evil aren't inherently the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Dark and evil aren't inherently the same thing.
    Exactly there is light figures that are evil look at king thordan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Dark and evil aren't inherently the same thing.
    So what makes a healing style "dark" then? Neither conjury or arcanima are inherently good. We've met pretty unsavory characters using both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    So what makes a healing style "dark" then? Neither conjury or arcanima are inherently good. We've met pretty unsavory characters using both.
    Something that involves self sacrifice (aside from MP lol), deals with voidsent, perhaps BDSM aesthetics like chains and whips.

    Or evil fairies, bound to a Scholar's will, that use offensive magic/debuffing magic... because fairies aren't quite lovely in old folklore- they're as bad as demons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Something that involves self sacrifice (aside from MP lol), deals with voidsent, perhaps BDSM aesthetics like chains and whips.

    Or evil fairies, bound to a Scholar's will, that use offensive magic/debuffing magic... because fairies aren't quite lovely in old folklore- they're as bad as demons.
    What kind of self sacrifice are you imagining? WHM can, story-wise, already cast from HP, but it's extremely ill-advised. I'm assuming most jobs can actually do this in some fashion like Moenbryda. Dealing with voidsent sounds like a hilariously bad idea that would get you hunted by everyone with any amount of sense. What would we even gain from this? Voidsent haven't been shown to have any powers that we ourselves aren't capable of. They're bound by the same rules we are, assuming we're on the same power level of course.

    As for your fairies idea, they'd have to develop completely new lore, because implementing that currently would mean your character is essentially a slave owner. Lily isn't some sort of spirit we've bound to our will. She was a living person who's actually working with us. She's shown she has her own, separate, mind when she defends Surito Carito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Just the idea "dark healer" has always made no sense to me. People on the dark side aren't really concerned with saving lives.
    Of course they are; intelligent evil characters are extremely interested in keeping their allies alive. Pragmatic villains tend to be the most dangerous, after all.

    Besides, as Greedalox says, dark and evil are not always the same thing, especially in modern fantasy, which tends to be a little more nuanced. We'd be much more likely to see another case of "well-intentioned characters uses dark and/or blood-themed magic for good."

    On a side note, I personally I don't want to see any dark "chemist" stuff. Prefer my healers straight-up magical rather than alchemical, but obviously some players would enjoy that theme.
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