Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Aramina]

A jump past what is now current content. Potion won't be released until after SB sometime, maybe not until right before 5.0. All that means is they are waiting for after the goalposts have moved on. Would you be so blasé about it if it was to be released before SB, when the content skipped past is still current?

But... that is not the case. It would be a totally different animal. Which I already said to you before when you tried to claim they were the same thing. They aren't.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

But... that is not the case. It would be a totally different animal. Which I already said to you before when you tried to claim they were the same thing. They aren't.

Principle is the same. Its not a totally different animal, its the exact same one!

[Imoen]

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Just call it a "non cosmetic micro transaction" or a "additional fee" or something else of that nature, then these people have nothing to latch on to. They are just pulling out a microscope on the "w".

[Aramina]

Principle is the same. Its not a totally different animal, its the exact same one!

No, it's not. Case 1: Max level + max gear. Case 2: Not max level + not max gear. On what planet are max and not max the same thing?

[Lambdafish]

From page one to here, there has been talk about "other ways" ... but ... Can someone please come up with a really good idea from these "x number of ways" that doesn't break the game?

SE has a solution. Can anyone come up with a better one?

Go back literally 5 posts from when this was posted and you will see some. (In fact, the response directly before this is talking about them)

At 10 levels below cap with gear for 10 levels below cap, what exactly are you winning?

Have you ever played one of those free to play money sucking mobile games? Their entire grab is that they are addictive but the activities take far too long to allow you to enjoy the game without purchase. What you win from the jump potion is the same. It is instant gratification of having a level 60 character and being top level without working for it. Granted, I have a far greater issue with the levelling potion than the story potion (because the levelling potion is literally paying for experience points on any number of jobs), but both involve you paying to decrease the amount of time it takes to get your reward, just like the free to play mobile games (this is framed from the mindset of someone who is incentivised by the potion)

[Imoen]

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Their entire point was that it doesn't take you to cap, so that somehow makes it better.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

No, it's not. Case 1: Max level + max gear. Case 2: Not max level + not max gear. On what planet are max and not max the same thing?

Case 1 : buys 3.x completion, i270 gear, level 60. Case 2 : buys 3.x completion, i270 gear, level 60.

Exact same animal.

Max vs not max is irrelevant. The principle, buying gear, power (levels), content wins, remains exactly the same regardless of when it is purchased.

[Aramina]

Go back literally 5 posts from when this was posted and you will see some. (In fact, the response directly before this is talking about them)



Have you ever played one of those free to play money sucking mobile games? Their entire grab is that they are addictive but the activities take far too long to allow you to enjoy the game without purchase. What you win from the jump potion is the same. It is instant gratification of having a level 60 character and being top level without working for it. Granted, I have a far greater issue with the levelling potion than the story potion (because the levelling potion is literally paying for experience points on any number of jobs), but both involve you paying to decrease the amount of time it takes to get your reward, just like the free to play mobile games (this is framed from the mindset of someone who is incentivised by the potion)

For the millionth time. You. Will. Not. Be. Max. Level.

[Aramina]

Case 1 : buys 3.x completion, i270 gear, level 60. Case 2 : buys 3.x completion, i270 gear, level 60.

Exact same animal.

Context is everything my friend. I have grown weary of people arguing based on emotion rather than logic. You win.

[Lambdafish]

You. Will. Not. Be. Max. Level.

My mistake, I mistyped top level (It's 1am), what I meant was top level as it is right now. But regardless, the point still stands. It is instant gratification that people can immediately jump to the point we are at now (no wait... a point that hasn't even been released yet) without putting any effort in. Max level or not, the content we are talking about hasn't even been released yet, and we are deciding on whether or not to allow people to skip it.