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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    I don't see how people, can't see the advantage a player gets using a potion vs someone that did not.
    I could sort of understand your point if the game only released yesterday, but years later? After millions upon millions have gotten there already and even further, because it only takes you 10 levels lower?
    Also, in your example, what does this person-1 win? and how does person-2 know person-1? If they are friends, that's between them and none of your business, if they are not, then how do they know? And more importantly, what do they actually win?
    It seems like you're fairly new, because the term p2w specifically refers to gear, the term came from primarily asian grinders, where you can buy better gear and "win" battles against other players using money, or "win" world firsts for specific raids and bosses... key word, Win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCharms View Post
    I could sort of understand your point if the game only released yesterday, but years later? After millions upon millions have gotten there already and even further, because it only takes you 10 levels lower?
    Also, in your example, what does this person-1 win? and how does person-2 know person-1? If they are friends, that's between them and none of your business, if they are not, then how do they know? And more importantly, what do they actually win?
    It seems like you're fairly new, because the term p2w specifically refers to gear, the term came from primarily asian grinders, where you can buy better gear and "win" battles against other players using money, or "win" world firsts for specific raids and bosses... key word, Win.
    Sorry, I thought you quoted my other thing. My bad. I really don't care what anyone calls it anymore, regardless of what people call it, it still gives an advantage. To be specific though, I was comparing two new people starting at the same time, not a new person vs someone else that has been playing. It is just my thoughts though, on it. I'm not trying to convince anyone to agree with it. I've already voted by canceling.
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    Last edited by Imoen; 12-19-2016 at 11:43 AM.
    Me: "Aww man I'm clicking all the wrong buttons tonight!"
    Friend: "You're i190, you can't click a wrong button unless it is no buttons"
    Me: "lol"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    You are distorting what I was getting at. Let me rephrase, if it helps... "The only people getting anything out of this deal"

    This wasn't an argument against the potion. I was simply re-framing DrStiles (Sorry if I spelled that wrong) point that it doesn't actually solve the problem with the MSQ
    I'm in complete agreement with you there, this doesn't solve it at all, and as I said in another post, I was championing for the MSQ clean up weeks ago before Yoshi's announcement as I feel its far too important to leave as it is.
    As for the potion itself, I'm sort of on the fence about it. If it helps with the financial stability of the studio and lets us have more content in the future, then I'll lean towards not having a problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCharms View Post
    I'm in complete agreement with you there, this doesn't solve it at all, and as I said in another post, I was championing for the MSQ clean up weeks ago before Yoshi's announcement as I feel its far too important to leave as it is.
    As for the potion itself, I'm sort of on the fence about it. If it helps with the financial stability of the studio and lets us have more content in the future, then I'll lean towards not having a problem with it.
    Ya, the story stuff has been brought up multiple times in the past before this.

    I'm against the potion myself, I actually canceled all my accounts as a direct result of it even being discussed. (103 days left) I'm kind of hanging out to see how they respond to all of this. Until then I won't be re subbing if ever. Makes me sad, sucks that I'm going to lose all the houses (FC+Personal+a personal I got for a friend on my alt since they don't play as often) but it's just not something I can get behind. Its the first time my sub hasn't been active since 1.0

    Despite all this, I hope they still fix the story stuff.

    Edit; Fixed my other post as well, thought you had quoted my most recent post, not an older one.
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    Last edited by Imoen; 12-19-2016 at 11:41 AM.
    Me: "Aww man I'm clicking all the wrong buttons tonight!"
    Friend: "You're i190, you can't click a wrong button unless it is no buttons"
    Me: "lol"