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    Imoen Orunitia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Explain to me how someone who farms FATE's (learning nothing about how to play their role at all), while the other person takes their time, is any different.
    If I actually ever argued skill... this would be a valued question... However; I didn't.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    If I actually ever argued skill... this would be a valued question... However; I didn't.
    You didn't answer my question, though. How is it that someone who gets to level 50 faster than someone else = P2W? All they're getting is a level 50 character and (maybe?) Gloam gear (i110), something which you get anyway if you decide to take your time and enjoy the ride. The most that can do for you is being geared for level 50 dungeons and prepared for the HW story.

    To me, P2W is something to the equivalent of being allowed to buy Savage raiding gear, Savage/Extreme mounts and Savage/Extreme achievements.
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    Austherus Aynvals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    To me.
    To you.

    Different opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    You didn't answer my question, though. How is it that someone who gets to level 50 faster than someone else = P2W? All they're getting is a level 50 character and (maybe?) Gloam gear (i110), something which you get anyway if you decide to take your time and enjoy the ride. The most that can do for you is being geared for level 50 dungeons and prepared for the HW story.

    To me, P2W is something to the equivalent of being allowed to buy Savage raiding gear, Savage/Extreme mounts and Savage/Extreme achievements.
    I don't need to answer your question, because it is neither a pre-requisite to anything I said.. nor did I imply, or even lean in that direction for the entirety of me being here. Why do I need to answer a hypothetical, on something I did not even propose? You are randomly tossing this at me like it will some how either change my view, and or make a hole in something, that in my opinion is already well established... I will give you the courtesy of saying, that player skill or effects on the game internally haven't had any baring on any sort of decision I made to cancel 3 accounts, however. Honestly though, beyond that, I don't know what you expect me to say. Since non of anything you said or asked of me, even crossed my mind, during that decision process. I said earlier that "while this doesn't effect me" go ahead, click my name, view past posts. I'm not being rude, just seriously... that part of it, I don't really care about, the extent of any "in game thing" that I had a problem with was only related to 2.0-3.0 story line. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Your proposed question, which wasn't part of your original, is asking me how I think someone leveling in front of someone else is P2W, I think I answered that pretty clearly... If player A buys the game and a potion, and player B buys just the game... does player A have an advantage? It is a simple yes or no... it isn't a debate... does that person have an advantage or not? That is rhetorical, you don't need to answer... but my answer is in that.
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    Last edited by Imoen; 12-18-2016 at 06:51 PM.
    Me: "Aww man I'm clicking all the wrong buttons tonight!"
    Friend: "You're i190, you can't click a wrong button unless it is no buttons"
    Me: "lol"