Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Moonlite]

Let's not forget that a lot on this forum just love to blow everything out of proportion and overreact. Like that comment. I highly doubt they would force you to do anything. But maybe i'm wrong.

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

You both have to improve your reading skills.

This "27-29% players" is only for:
- New players coming to FFXIV, not the entire player base...
- The Job Jumping potion, not the story one.
- Includes all types of players, would they be MMORPG veterans, coached/helped by friends and, your favorite, the complete newbie.

If you didn't just read the big red bolded words, you'd have been able to read this: "There were about 20-21% percent of those who purchased story jump potions along with the above conditions. From those who have purchased the job jumping potions, it looks like there is a good amount of players who want to experience the main scenario themselves."

Considering these potions are more popular in China and Korea, we should expect at least a slight drop for NA/EU market.
And yes, Wolf_Heartnet, experience means a lot. For example, a WoW veteran who wants to come to FFXIV will naturally be way more skillful than a total newbie, and will get "decent" at the game in a very short amount of time. These players are included in this "20-21%", and it does matter.
And what I said about "crushing your argument" is that getting new players is way more valuable than the downside of getting a few newbies in dungeons. (Stop misreading things, please.)

I hope you get why I dismiss your argument completly. I base mine on facts, while you base yours on assumptions and even misread stuff. I also base mu argument off other precedents, like what happened in WoW (a lot of people like you, thinking it's the end of the world because newbs would swarm their dungeons, while it didn't happen at all).

So yeah, maybe I don't know exactly the exact number and exact skill level of the people you'll meet in DF after these items show up in the shop...
But what I do know for certain, is that you're overreacting way too much and are blowing everything out of proportion.

When we say "DF won't change", it means "it'll barely be noticable at most".

You need to improve yours it seems. I never said the entire playerbase. You just assumed that. Just like everything else in your arguments.

And no, experience doesn't mean much for the reasons i've already said. Keep in mind i never said it didn't matter at all. I just said that it mattered little because the games they played previously wasn't an exact copy of xiv. You lack the ability to understand that learning curves differ from game to game.

True. Getting new players is valuable to keep an mmo alive and if you actually read the post I linked earlier, you would know that i mentioned there were ways to improve the new player experience without giving them jump potions.


And it seems like you don't understand your own arguments. As mentioned in the previous post you base your argument/opinion on assumptions. The fact that you tell us to improve our reading skills by ASSUMING that I meant the ENTIRE playerbase proves this. Then on top of that, you ASSUME we think its the end of the world when all I am saying is that people have legitimate concerns. You blow things out of proportion and don't actually try to understand other peoples arguments because all you care for is your own it seems.

So yeah, you tell us that we blow things out of proportion? You need only look at your own post to see that the only one doing so is you.

And no, when you said "DF won't change" you are making a statement that it won't change at all. If you have any other meaning on it then u HAVE to elaborate or people won't understand what your talking about. Edit: Otherwise we would be ASSUMING.

Like it already has been said, you don't know. Don't pretend to know.

[Belhi]

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

I like the continual nature of the story. Its one of the things in this game that appeals to me the most. Having them change that would definitely negatively effect my enjoyment of the game. However there are definitely issues and sadly when rebuilding the game they didn't seem to take those considerations into account. That makes things tricky. Its also why I get the need for a Jump Potion. Its not a perfect fix but its a functional one and done right can be introduced with minimal negative impact to existing and new players.

Would I like them to overhaul the existing system to make it address these existing problems better without resorting to the Jump Potions? Hell yeah. Is that realistically feasible? Hell no. The time, effort and cost simply make it impractical. It would be like trying to rebuild a car's engine into a different shape while in the middle of a formula one race.

[Austherus]

You both have to improve your reading skills.

This "27-29% players" is only for:
- New players coming to FFXIV, not the entire player base...
- The Job Jumping potion, not the story one.
- Includes all types of players, would they be MMORPG veterans, coached/helped by friends and, your favorite, the complete newbie.

I understand my mistake now. 27-29% is still a huge number of players, considering that everyone else who joins the game after the potions are added will be part of that statistic. The story potion buyers sound much smaller, but far from tiny.

[Legewiel]

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

Which mistakes?

[Moonlite]

I like the continual nature of the story. Its one of the things in this game that appeals to me the most. Having them change that would definitely negatively effect my enjoyment of the game.

Would I like them to overhaul the existing system to make it address these existing problems better without resorting to the Jump Potions? Hell yeah. Is that realistically feasible? Hell no.

Can the narrative not be continuing, with out it being directly tied to it? Can people not enjoy more world building with out it being built right on top of the old content. Within the current system that is somewhat outlined they have quest progression and flagging issues that can't be fixed, I get that. But why does each thing have to be directly tied to the last. I don't expect a fix anymore or ever really. I expect better planning going forward.But as we have seen from other issues what seems to be simple planning going forward, like we have an inventory issue lets not increase the items number for 10 levels to the same as first 50. Oh wait we can just charge them for it.

I actually don't oppose potions so much as bad design, bad fixes, and cash grabs. But basically to embrace what you find enjoyable perpetuates bad design and allows for cash grab.

To legeweil the mistake of directly linking 3.0 and 2.0 stories together when they have no way to adjust them in the future except to flag as all done for cash. Just for starters.

[Nycka]

I think it's great I have a lot of friends that want to play but don't have time to actually get on and play that far into the game. LET'S BE HONEST A LOT OF US DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND RUN OLD CONTENT OVER AND OVER even for a friend some of us will and some of us wont and I understand that there will be a huge gap in player skill but for me I would honestly like to teach friends how to use there skills and how to play there job then running old content over and over the help them level.

[Legewiel]

To legeweil the mistake of directly linking 3.0 and 2.0 stories together when they have no way to adjust them in the future except to flag as all done for cash. Just for starters.

But that is one of the greatest things on this game for those that like the story, it's all linked on the main quest so if you want to understand the story you just follow it and you're good to go o.o in Wow its all scattered between maps and you can level on different maps so you don't know what is important and what is not, you don't know where to continue to be able to understand everything o.o in the end you'll just have to go around doing all quests or buy the books o.o

[FinalWolf]

Kinda weird the people with 1 post to the forums are all saying the same thing...

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Does it bother no one at SE that the largest impediment they are seeing to new players playing the game is ... having to play the game?

I can see the need for content skipping eventually. But as I've said before, the game is too young. Its not like it has Everquest's 22 expansions yet. Or even however many WoW had when it started its PTW leveling.