Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Moonlite]

Let's not forget that a lot on this forum just love to blow everything out of proportion and overreact. Like that comment. I highly doubt they would force you to do anything. But maybe i'm wrong.

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

[Belhi]

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

I like the continual nature of the story. Its one of the things in this game that appeals to me the most. Having them change that would definitely negatively effect my enjoyment of the game. However there are definitely issues and sadly when rebuilding the game they didn't seem to take those considerations into account. That makes things tricky. Its also why I get the need for a Jump Potion. Its not a perfect fix but its a functional one and done right can be introduced with minimal negative impact to existing and new players.

Would I like them to overhaul the existing system to make it address these existing problems better without resorting to the Jump Potions? Hell yeah. Is that realistically feasible? Hell no. The time, effort and cost simply make it impractical. It would be like trying to rebuild a car's engine into a different shape while in the middle of a formula one race.

[Moonlite]

I like the continual nature of the story. Its one of the things in this game that appeals to me the most. Having them change that would definitely negatively effect my enjoyment of the game.

Would I like them to overhaul the existing system to make it address these existing problems better without resorting to the Jump Potions? Hell yeah. Is that realistically feasible? Hell no.

Can the narrative not be continuing, with out it being directly tied to it? Can people not enjoy more world building with out it being built right on top of the old content. Within the current system that is somewhat outlined they have quest progression and flagging issues that can't be fixed, I get that. But why does each thing have to be directly tied to the last. I don't expect a fix anymore or ever really. I expect better planning going forward.But as we have seen from other issues what seems to be simple planning going forward, like we have an inventory issue lets not increase the items number for 10 levels to the same as first 50. Oh wait we can just charge them for it.

I actually don't oppose potions so much as bad design, bad fixes, and cash grabs. But basically to embrace what you find enjoyable perpetuates bad design and allows for cash grab.

To legeweil the mistake of directly linking 3.0 and 2.0 stories together when they have no way to adjust them in the future except to flag as all done for cash. Just for starters.

[Legewiel]

To legeweil the mistake of directly linking 3.0 and 2.0 stories together when they have no way to adjust them in the future except to flag as all done for cash. Just for starters.

But that is one of the greatest things on this game for those that like the story, it's all linked on the main quest so if you want to understand the story you just follow it and you're good to go o.o in Wow its all scattered between maps and you can level on different maps so you don't know what is important and what is not, you don't know where to continue to be able to understand everything o.o in the end you'll just have to go around doing all quests or buy the books o.o

[Belhi]

Can the narrative not be continuing, with out it being directly tied to it? Can people not enjoy more world building with out it being built right on top of the old content. Within the current system that is somewhat outlined they have quest progression and flagging issues that can't be fixed, I get that. But why does each thing have to be directly tied to the last. I don't expect a fix anymore or ever really. I expect better planning going forward.But as we have seen from other issues what seems to be simple planning going forward, like we have an inventory issue lets not increase the items number for 10 levels to the same as first 50. Oh wait we can just charge them for it.

I actually don't oppose potions so much as bad design, bad fixes, and cash grabs. But basically to embrace what you find enjoyable perpetuates bad design and allows for cash grab.

To legeweil the mistake of directly linking 3.0 and 2.0 stories together when they have no way to adjust them in the future except to flag as all done for cash. Just for starters.

The link is the continuity. We have development for characters play out over multiple expansions. Our relationship to those characters directly ties into that. Iceheart would be just some random rebel leader without her introduction in 2.4. One of the most emotional scenes in HW story would have substantially less impact if we didn't already have establish relationships with characters involved. This is true for enemies and allies.

Now you could argue that they could just have it so you step into the existing story at that point and it would be like reading a series of novels and starting half way through. That's basically what the Story Jump potion does. The reason they cant just do this without something like a Jump Potion seems to be that their questing/gating system isn't designed for it and while it would be better for that to be fixed, it would also be a massive amount of work to overhaul a core system and that is something that is less realistic to expect.

The reality is the game engine we have is what they have to work with. Any solutions have to work within those confines. As you point out SE is a business and any major investments of money need to be justified to investors. They need to feel the returns are worth the cost. MMOs are these days already rather unpopular with investors simply because of the high risk and the rather smaller ratio of profit to investment compared to other game. Case in point look at Blizzard. Hearthstone has a vastly higher profit to cost ratio compared to WoW and required a tiny team to create.

There is going to be a cap on the realistic amount of resources a dev team can ask for and that has to be divided up among all the game's projects. This time round its Server infrastructure (for a inventory size increase), the patch development and the expansion. If we were to get a quest system overhaul it would come at the cost of one of those things.

You can complain about design mistakes in the past till the cows come home and it won't change the fact that the system we have is the one they have to work with. If we want to keep playing this game its that system they have to get to work.

[Elkanah]

You can complain about design mistakes in the past till the cows come home and it won't change the fact that the system we have is the one they have to work with. If we want to keep playing this game its that system they have to get to work.

Since squeenix took all the devs from XIV to work on XV, and the creators of the Dot Hack games are developing the project for FF VII Remake because they know how to work the multi-disc progress system with their past .Hack PS2 titles, I have to wonder how much development squeenix will bother with.

[Legewiel]

Are the signs not already here that 4.0 is getting a similar getting/extension that 3.0 got. Did they already say the system does not allow them to go back and really fix old quest chain flagging in its currently implemented form. Time will tell, one would have hoped we would not see 3.0 mistakes repeated right at the beginning of 4.0.

Maybe they do have a new system in place. Anyone else remember in the past where they double down on bad systems. You have not moved off the benefit of the doubt wagon yet. How much longer can they ride the ARR relaunch goodwill with you people.

Which mistakes?