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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Like I mentioned before, we already have players that get to 60, and have no idea how to play the job, nor do they care. We have players unlocking the 3.0 jobs, not bothering to read tooltips, not bothering to learn their skills, heck, some don't even bother to do their very first job quest. While they aren't the majority, I just question how letting players buy leveling potions, and handing them all of their skills, will improve the quality of the player base.
    This is why its entitlement LOL, you're assuming everyone who's going to buy these are actually stupid, and not, idk, maybe buying them to raid on alts, or for RP purposes, or because, hell, they may actually look up how to play their class effectively and show a willingness to learn.

    It's entitlement because "well, if they didn't learn/play like I had to, the hard way, then they shouldn't be playing at all!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clawbriar View Post
    It's entitlement because "well, if they didn't learn/play like I had to, the hard way, then they shouldn't be playing at all!"
    Please point to me where I said that, because as far as I'm aware, I never made any references to the way that I play this game, or how I play should be the way everyone else plays.

    I said I question what this will do to the player base, because there is already a bad/lazy pool of players, and I just don't want there to be even more, and I worry that this potion may (keyword here is MAY) encourage that.

    Like I mentioned before, we already have players that get to 60, and have no idea how to play the job, nor do they care. We have players unlocking the 3.0 jobs, not bothering to read tooltips, not bothering to learn their skills, heck, some don't even bother to do their very first job quest. While they aren't the majority, I just question how letting players buy leveling potions, and handing them all of their skills, will improve the quality of the player base. I know that bad and lazy players will continue to be bad and lazy, potion or no potion, but I feel like the job jump potions will encourage more of that. Especially since it seems like there's no Hall of Novice equivalent for those that use them in the Korean version.
    I never said that people should have to level the way I do, or play this game how I do. I don't think they should be able to buy their way to 60, because that makes this game P2W, and I don't agree with that. And because it will allow for more P2W items to be placed in the Cash Shop, which a lot of players already hate, and it's nothing more than over-priced glamour items, old event items, minions, and mounts.

    And no where did I say that EVERY PERSON who buys a job potion will be, as you said:
    you're assuming everyone who's going to buy these are actually stupid, and not, idk, maybe buying them to raid on alts, or for RP purposes, or because, hell, they may actually look up how to play their class effectively and show a willingness to learn.
    I even said that I hope that I was wrong and that this didn't increase the pool of bad/lazy players that we already have. But I never said that EVERYONE buying the potions are stupid or bad or lazy.


    Quote Originally Posted by JCharms View Post
    The only slippery slope is this argument, I seen the same things being said time and time again on SWTOR, WOW, ESO and other games forums when they added the shop to those games many years ago.
    Well, nothing ever came from it, for any of those games, as it wont here.
    If you don't like it, you should just say so for the reasons you believe, and don't try and go down this path of what-ifs to try and strengthen your disagreement with it.
    Not really trying to strengthen any of my arguments or disagreements with it. Just saying that those are reasons WHY I dislike it, whether they are founded or unfounded "what-ifs."
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-17-2016 at 01:31 PM.
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