Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Belhi]

It takes less than a week.

Less than a week if your grinding quests 12 hours a day maybe. Its currently around 600 quests. It's only going to get longer.

My FC gets a lot of sprouts and we go out of our way to support those new players and I frequently see those sprouts go from entertained and engaged to fatigued to frustrated and impatient. Most who finally hit 3.0 respond with relief rather than excitement. Even the greatest meal in the world loses its charm if your forced eat nothing but it.

I would like to add that doing the MSQ won't make a lick of difference to the performance of players. Healers who don't want to dps aren't suddenly going to become more common. Anyone who is like that would be that way wether they levelled from 1 and did every MSQ. The MSQ and levelling process doesn't somehow filter them out.

I do, lets say a RMT gets on uses boost potion for any of the craft jobs makes invests in gear then transfers the gil to someone who isn't a bot, then sells it makes profit and wrecking the Market board for everyone.

I understand its for players to catch up and even though they won't know the mechanics they'll learn but I can see this being abused and if people say no, they are RMT they always find ways to screw things up trust me.

The cost of the potions makes this a lot less viable. The best way to counter RMT is to eat into their potential profits.

[JunseiKei]

uses boost potion for any of the craft jobs

There's no reason for a crafting of gathering jump potion to exist. You don't need them to progress in the game at all, unlike things like MSQ, which all require a Disciple of War or Magic. Unless I missed where it said those were to be included, but I thought I only read story and job jump potions.

[Jijifli]

I hope you like Healers refusing to use offensive abilities "b-because I'm a healer not a DPS!!", because you're only gonna have even more of those now.

Rather that than the SMN's that don't dot, BLM's that don't fire, DRG's that don't jump, NIN's that don't jutsu, DRK's that don't darkside, MNK's that don't position, WAR's that can't storm's eye, etc.

The bad already exists, and honestly in good numbers if you look. If the player will be bad with a jump potion, they were going to be without it.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but if the main reason for the jump potions are to allow catchup... then why allow people buy multiple job potions? (at least it sounds like that's the plan?).

You only need *one* job at 60 to catchup... everyone else currently at 60 who wanted to level something else would start back at level 1 (or 30 for HW jobs). It also makes a bit of a mockery of achievements like Grandmaster of War/Grandmaster of Magic if someone with money to spare can just buy all their level 60s vs someone that actually spent the time and effort to level up?

People love playing multiple jobs. I always hear on this very forum on how the weekly tomestone cap needs to go or how difficult it is to get their other jobs geared up because they can only choose one kind of gear from coffer drops. Not everyone is going to stick to one job and allowing people to buy different types of job potions will let them experiment more freely without the grind. Achievements are pretty much a joke already since it seems no one really cares about them other than the very vocal minority that still insist achievements have some sort of deep meaning behind the player who got them.

For the people that didn't read the message in full, he stated they observed what players buy the skips and how they fare, the majority of them aren't actually entirely new players. They're players lvling alts, having gotten to 30 with the free trial or know veteran players and are helped by those friends.
It seems that people wouldn't invest in the game without having experienced it enough to be certain, so it'd make sense that it'd be rare for people to not even try lvling the normal way for a while with the free trial before buying.
As long as the money earned is put back into the game's development I don't mind, though that may be wishful thinking knowing how businesses are like.

It's safe to say that most potion users are going to be people using alts as you said. Some want to experience the story again without the grind, others want to get their alts maxed out for RP purposes, and everyone else has their own reasons. It's pretty much a given that these potions are there to make the company money, but if the devs really wanted to make it easier for newbies to catch up, they would have made the potions cheaper to buy.



As for my thoughts on this, I really don't care that much since, as others have said, it's literally going to be no different from before with bad players. We already had people in level 60 content not using tank stances by heart and others spamming Fire 3 as if it was the most damaging DPS spell. Since the potions are there for newbies to catch up to their friends, it would fall on both, the newbie to learn how to play and the friends to teach them. The mentality "I did it this way, therefore everyone else has to" isn't gonna fly anymore as the game keeps growing because that's how you give people the impression that this game is not for them and that others shouldn't play. Heck, most people that say that phrase probably refuse to go back to old content to help someone out or are the first ones to bail when there's a wipe.


It's up to us as players to be what new players aspire to be. Lazy players won't listen. An aspiring player will.

[FinalWolf]

I need to mentally prepare myself for 4.0 now

[Priya]

If part of the reason to release these is to alleviate players needing to complete tons of story quests to progress... why not just remove the gates?

Make level the only requirement to enter a dungeon/zone: e.g. when you get 18, you can enter Sastasha no matter your story progress, and when you hit 50 you can enter Ishgard and beyond no matter your story progress. The sheer amount of gating new players have to go through is what turns them off, so remove those.

In the same vein, you could also reset side quests for each job someone levels. So they can quest while they wait for dungeon queues; many MMOs do this.

I'm not against level boosting (I buy them all the time in WoW), but leveling in XIV is fairly quick as it is. The worst part about it is all the story gating that's forced upon people before they can even enter a zone. People will still eventually progress the story both for narrative and XP, but don't force it on those who do not care to deal with it.

[Cetonis]

Aside from the obvious need for a Hall of the Intermediate, please consider some sort of "recommended hotbar layout". You will mortify players who pop a potion and then suddenly have 30 randomly-arranged buttons to make sense of. Sure it'd be a "teaching moment" to make people read the tooltips to figure out where they want things, but that's a bit of a cruel way to go about that.

[HakuroDK]

I'm absolutely okay with this.

[Kling-Klang]

Hm, doesnt seem too bad. The price should prevent too many people buying it.
Wont use it but dont care who does. Wonder if level potion will become a new duty finder insult haha.

[Yuella]

This is good news. I have wanted to create multiple alts but I don't have time to play through the story again. With these jump potions, I can make the alts and get to Stormblood.