WHM getting progressively more unnecessary in content?

[NorthernLadMSP]

I get the feeling these threads won't stop until AST has been nerfed back down to their 3.0 version when no one wanted them in parties and statics were forcing new ASTs to switch back to SCH or WHM.

[Ghishlain]

I get the feeling these threads won't stop until AST has been nerfed back down to their 3.0 version when no one wanted them in parties and statics were forcing new ASTs to switch back to SCH or WHM.

Threads like these will never stop in any MMORPG where there are limited role slots and more jobs / classes than role slots. It's important for both the developers and readers to be able to sift through the zealots of any job and find the important talking points of any discussion. Making hyperbolic statements regarding the discussion doesn't contribute anything meaningful either.

I don't want AST nerfed back to the 3.0 era but I also feel strongly about how unnecessary the AST buffs from 3.2 and onward felt too and either ASTs need to be tuned back down to be more balanced or WHMs need to be tuned up to match AST and SCH. Of course, again, as re-iterated throughout this thread by multiple posters, any balance changes / additions most likely won't come until 4.0.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Threads like these will never stop in any MMORPG where there are limited role slots and more jobs / classes than role slots. It's important for both the developers and readers to be able to sift through the zealots of any job and find the important talking points of any discussion. Making hyperbolic statements regarding the discussion doesn't contribute anything meaningful either.

I don't want AST nerfed back to the 3.0 era but I also feel strongly about how unnecessary the AST buffs from 3.2 and onward felt too and either ASTs need to be tuned back down to be more balanced or WHMs need to be tuned up to match AST and SCH. Of course, again, as re-iterated throughout this thread by multiple posters, any balance changes / additions most likely won't come until 4.0.

I wouldn't say they were unnecessary, though people vastly underestimated them. What I'll never understand is why Balance got a buff. What Astro really needs is have its cards reworked to not essentially be "do I have Balance?" Regardless, I suspect that buff was to motivate people into playing Astro and things will change once Stormblood comes out. Unfortunately, content needs to require more healing if they intend on keeping WHM the de facto "main healer." That has been another issue with balancing the jobs. If you don't need raw healing, WHM just isn't going to benefit the raid to the extent Astro and Scholar will.

[Ghishlain]

I wouldn't say they were unnecessary, though people vastly underestimated them. What I'll never understand is why Balance got a buff. What Astro really needs is have its cards reworked to not essentially be "do I have Balance?" Regardless, I suspect that buff was to motivate people into playing Astro and things will change once Stormblood comes out. Unfortunately, content needs to require more healing if they intend on keeping WHM the de facto "main healer." That has been another issue with balancing the jobs. If you don't need raw healing, WHM just isn't going to benefit the raid to the extent Astro and Scholar will.

I agree with this fully an expecting a huge card rework myself in 4.0. I'm anticipating the removal of 20% Balance and also believe they'll normalize the AST healing spell costs too.

... man if that happens there's going to be a lot of salt on these forums for the first few weeks of 4.0. *Rubs temples* lol. . .