FFXIV FOR THE NINTENDO SWITCH

[Welsper59]

I feel that it would be more like promoting PS4/Xbox One as having great libraries, if all they put out were decade+ old series that have done well (i.e. Call of Duty, Battlefield, Final Fantasy) and offered 0 new and interesting IP's.

I have no issue with Nintendo having Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong etc., but it's been forever since I've seen them put out a quality game that wasn't one of their tried and tested. It's in large part due to their lacking 3rd party support.


Indeed, Nintendo has definitely a stronghold on the portable market. That said, I personally had a 3DS and a Vita. Both consoles were hugely disappointing, and both consoels gave me a few games that I loved. Vita notably had Persona 4, and 3DS had Tales of the Abyss and Pokémon. In both cases (outside of Pokémon) they're just ports from old playstation consoles.

I purchased a number of other games for both systems and they were all pretty boring. I wasted an unfortunate amount of money on both of them. I guess, luckily?, I wasted less money on them than I did on the Nintendo Wii.

I think the way people are looking at Nintendo, by comparison to Sony and MS, is where the issue lies here. They are a company looking to make a profit, there's no doubt about that, but Nintendo has never really aimed to be the creme of the crop. I think most of us can agree on that one, just based on their decisions. They could have decided to fall in line with the other, but they didn't and continue not to. I think that's something to note about them. Maybe the support that is being shown with the Switch will be that turning point or maybe not. The Wii U was pushing the idea it had a good amount of third party support, but obviously that went nowhere lol.

The difference for most gamers in regards to positive and negative attitudes for Nintendo, I think, centers around what people are expecting. If you want PS/XBONE type of games, why not just get one of them? Or better yet, invest in a PC for most big name hits on those consoles lol. When people look at Nintendo, they DO expect the old big IPs, which Nintendo does (eventually) deliver for most on at least one of their systems. Metroid is obviously the unwanted step-child on that matter lol.

When I look to Nintendo, I don't think of playing CoD, Uncharted, BF, etc games (and often share between the other consoles and PC). I think of those franchises I'm familiar with. I think of quality games as a result, since that's usually what you get from those big IPs. You may not have liked games like Smash, Splatoon, Mario 3D world, Mario Kart 8, etc, but many people did. And that's just looking at the Wii U as far as enjoyment to be had, the commercially failed console that it was. Many people loved the RPGs that the 3DS had exclusively, like Bravely Default, Fire Emblem Series, the Mario RPGs. Hell, the support behind Smash, Hyrule Warriors, etc is certainly another noteworthy mention for it that no other company did well.

Thus far, it may not have done as well as Sony and MS (though MS is often hit or miss), but people do look to Nintendo for other reasons. What's the point in having 3 consoles on the market vying for the same games so that they can keep up (hardware wise) with PC gaming? If Nintendo needs to turn all their attention to being the same as the others, I'd imagine they'd have done it. It's just I don't think they see a point to it, with the fact that the other two already are trying to be exactly like each other.

I generally own all consoles throughout the years (I'm only missing XBONE, as I'm waiting for Scorpio). I can tell you for a fact that ever since the PS2 ended its era, Nintendo consoles have often seen the most use from me. A lot of the Sony or MS games, I could often just play on my much better equipped PC. Little reason to bother with those or to give it direct praise because of the fact that I could play the majority of those games on something else. I give Sony praise for Uncharted and some cult hit games like Persona (which doesn't exactly seem to be exclusive by contract, since the Shin Megami series is present on the 3DS). MS is praised for Halo... and maybe something else? MS's case is just my own ignorance on the matter, since I don't own an XBONE.

[Ametrine]

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That's part of why Splatoon is such a huge deal. Nintendo gave a team of rookie developers the time and budget and now it's one of the brightest stars in their pool of IPs.


Kirby just got a big 3DS release in Super Robobot. Pokemon is attempting a new format in Sun and Moon, forgoing gyms for individual challenges and puzzles peppered about the world. Breath of the Wild looks more like an open world title RPG and item crafting and gathering, ala Skyrim or Fallout.

So, they hear people like you and are changing it up.

.... Star Fox Zero broke my heart, however. I keep hoping for something more akin to Assault, giving us a new enemy and storyline verses repeating the same plot over and over, while sticking to the rail shooter/ground combat. Instead, they've remade the NES game 3 times. I'm not going to touch it's comically awful controls. Port that to the Switch and give us proper stick controls!

[Thayos]

.... Star Fox Zero broke my heart, however. I keep hoping for something more akin to Assault, giving us a new enemy and storyline verses repeating the same plot over and over, while sticking to the rail shooter/ground combat. Instead, they've remade the NES game 3 times. I'm not going to touch it's comically awful controls. Port that to the Switch and give us proper stick controls!

Regarding game development, this was Nintendo's only real misstep of the Wii U era. So sad, too. Looks like a beautiful game, but I don't want to deal with that control scheme either.

[Kaurie]

I think the way people are looking at Nintendo, by comparison to Sony and MS, is where the issue lies here. They are a company looking to make a profit, there's no doubt about that, but Nintendo has never really aimed to be the creme of the crop. I think most of us can agree on that one, just based on their decisions. They could have decided to fall in line with the other, but they didn't and continue not to. I think that's something to note about them. Maybe the support that is being shown with the Switch will be that turning point or maybe not. The Wii U was pushing the idea it had a good amount of third party support, but obviously that went nowhere lol.

The difference for most gamers in regards to positive and negative attitudes for Nintendo, I think, centers around what people are expecting. If you want PS/XBONE type of games, why not just get one of them? Or better yet, invest in a PC for most big name hits on those consoles lol. When people look at Nintendo, they DO expect the old big IPs, which Nintendo does (eventually) deliver for most on at least one of their systems. Metroid is obviously the unwanted step-child on that matter lol.

When I look to Nintendo, I don't think of playing CoD, Uncharted, BF, etc games (and often share between the other consoles and PC). I think of those franchises I'm familiar with. I think of quality games as a result, since that's usually what you get from those big IPs. You may not have liked games like Smash, Splatoon, Mario 3D world, Mario Kart 8, etc, but many people did. And that's just looking at the Wii U as far as enjoyment to be had, the commercially failed console that it was. Many people loved the RPGs that the 3DS had exclusively, like Bravely Default, Fire Emblem Series, the Mario RPGs. Hell, the support behind Smash, Hyrule Warriors, etc is certainly another noteworthy mention for it that no other company did well.

Thus far, it may not have done as well as Sony and MS (though MS is often hit or miss), but people do look to Nintendo for other reasons. What's the point in having 3 consoles on the market vying for the same games so that they can keep up (hardware wise) with PC gaming? If Nintendo needs to turn all their attention to being the same as the others, I'd imagine they'd have done it. It's just I don't think they see a point to it, with the fact that the other two already are trying to be exactly like each other.

I generally own all consoles throughout the years (I'm only missing XBONE, as I'm waiting for Scorpio). I can tell you for a fact that ever since the PS2 ended its era, Nintendo consoles have often seen the most use from me. A lot of the Sony or MS games, I could often just play on my much better equipped PC. Little reason to bother with those or to give it direct praise because of the fact that I could play the majority of those games on something else. I give Sony praise for Uncharted and some cult hit games like Persona (which doesn't exactly seem to be exclusive by contract, since the Shin Megami series is present on the 3DS). MS is praised for Halo... and maybe something else? MS's case is just my own ignorance on the matter, since I don't own an XBONE.

I agree, but I am not saying that Nintendo should support those BF/CoD etc games, I am saying the need to make new and appealing IPs. For 3 generations, I haven't seen a single new interesting IP on Nintendo, it's all been Super Mario, Zelda and Pokemon games.

What??? LOL.

Nintendo's first-party IPs are amazing. Don't conflate the Wii U's small sales numbers with the strength of Nintendo's IPs. Even the Wii U's first-party library is absolutely solid.

Outside of their tried and tested franchies, Nintendo has brought nothing to the market. Unlike Playstation which has brought things like Last of Us and Bloodborn. In terms of their tried and tested, there really isn't anything new or interesting about them. They're made well, but we've played them before.

I am not conflating Wii U sales numbers at all. This has been my opinion since I sold my Wii after spending $1000 on the system and a plethora of games. I sold the system ~2 or 3 months after I bought it. It's been easily the worst (gaming related) purchasing decision of my life.

[Ametrine]

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Ok, I'll go into the controls now. :P

It's playable but the majority of the game's difficulty comes from the constant state of snapping back and forth between the screens to drive and shoot. It's stressful as hell since you never feel like you're actually in total control at any point. You're constantly teetering on disaster since you can't take your eyes from one screen to focus on the other for too long or else you'll crash/get hit or miss the opening to make a shot.

The thing is some players enjoy that kind of difficulty, and, as with anything, you get better with practice. But, it's still pure Starfox style cheese and a graphical stunner. (Though, the OST isn't on Assault's level :P )

[Bladesinger]

Yay Necros - So, if folks are paying attention to the leaks coming out of China and several development houses including SE - The Switch is RUMORED to house a processing output that now rivals the PS4 PRO - Can't wait for this be confirmed in January!!

[Kosmos992k]

Yay Necros - So, if folks are paying attention to the leaks coming out of China and several development houses including SE - The Switch is RUMORED to house a processing output that now rivals the PS4 PRO - Can't wait for this be confirmed in January!!

LOL This would be a pretty good definition of wishful thinking. Tegra X2 perhaps, since the dev kits feature overclocked Tegra X1 with heatsinks. That said, the optimistic X2 spec suggests it would be on pat with Xbox One & original PS4, not PS4 Pro. Switch is a hand held unit, get real.

[ErdrickLoto]

PS4 FFXIV also runs perfectly fine, last I heard. Doesn't need to be PS4 Pro levels to run FFXIV, just PS4.

[Bladesinger]

LOL This would be a pretty good definition of wishful thinking. Tegra X2 perhaps, since the dev kits feature overclocked Tegra X1 with heatsinks. That said, the optimistic X2 spec suggests it would be on pat with Xbox One & original PS4, not PS4 Pro. Switch is a hand held unit, get real.

Number 1 - you get real -I said processing power, not graphical output - Number 2, this information is coming from gamesindustry.biz and I think I'll listen to the professionals before I listen to some no name on a forum.

It's unfortunate that consumers can't access the business side of gamesindustry.biz - the excitment coming out of there right now over the Switch is refreshing.

[Inori-Yuzuriha]

No thanks .