If you're gonna ask how a fight works, why not just look it up first?

[Clethoria]

This has been bugging the hell out of me. If you're gonna make the group spend time walking you through every stage of a fight before we go, why not save us all the time beforehand and just look it up, first? Seriously. I get wanting to go in blind, but this isn't that. It's just laziness!

Laziness? It's a damn VIDEO GAME. You play to be lazy. I have a job, I have classes. I look up video research for those. Not an mmo where the social aspect is to be looked forward to, not feared because you want some perfect run on the first try. And FYI, seeing is not the same as doing. I can watch someone change a folic bag but that doesn't mean I can do it right my first time.

Don't ever take interest in a teaching career.

[Astral145]

The last time I checked this is a MMO unless something changed then I think everyone should know by now that in a MMO you are suppose to "TALK" to each other. You know use that little box on the bottom left of your screen where you can put words into it.

If you don't want to deal with players that has a difference in opinions about how you should play the game then I suggest do not use DF. I suggest using PF and be very specific about the rules. I for one do not watch many guides on how to run content. I do enjoy watching different styles of loadouts for dps like openers...ect but I hate watching someone else playing content.

Again this is a MMO and in my opinion if you are not asking questions and socializing then you are not getting the best experience a MMO can offer you.

Words to live by:

"Prejudice is a great time saver. You can form opinions without having to get the facts." - E. B. White

"You know, you don't have to have permanent opinions. You can think, every morning, 'I love the world' and go to bed every night thinking, 'I hate the world.'" - Michel Houellebecq

[Adire]

I don't care whether someone on a website wrote a guide for me or whether someone in chat in game writes a guide for me. Either way, it's someone writing a guide for me. The only difference? One holds either 3, 7. or 23 people up from doing something, the other does not.

Please be considerate like me and save everyone else a pointless, unnecessary waste of time.

[Cinno]

The main thing for me, is the fact that the guides usually go way too much into detail with it..

If you ask a player about a mechanic in game, the player will likely say "If you get the mark, go stand over there." verses a video guide, which will say "Any player that recieves the mark should proceed to the east side of the platform and stay there while the tanks move to the north side of the platform, with the boss and the healers move to the south side of the platform while pulling one of the adds with them."

honestly by the time the guide finishes that whole sentence, i will have forgotten that there's even a mark to watch out for because i'm so overwhelmed with the information thrown at me. Players in game are brief and to the point, and cut out all the excess information that doesnt pertain to you specifically. In a lot of cases, for me at least, thats a lot easier for me to retain and learn.

[Terrini]

I'm probably just what people consider a bad player because I have poor reaction time and despite knowing what to watch for, I sometimes don't catch them until too late. So watching a video and getting an explanation isn't enough, I have to actually DO the fight and get a feel for it so I can comprehend all the little things more intuitively. But people can be real dicks about it.

I actually ask for explanations moreso to get an idea of the people I'm running with. The kind of explanations you get when you say your new or you still need a clear say a LOT about the group as a whole, and part of doing mechanics is being able to anticipate your party members (particularly as a healer, like I play) If I don't know what to expect of the tank and the monsters aggroed on the tank, then I will be unprepared for big moves that drop HP to next to nil.

I CAN learn, and I CAN succeed in these things but people are so elitist a lot of the time that I just want to avoid end game content because of the toxic environment. People have different learning curves, and a negative environment is very detrimental. (If people are screaming bloody murder about a few wipes, it stresses people out and performance suffers. You're more likely to mess up on simple things if you're high strung because of a bad apple)

[Celef]

In most of the guides you have a tone of infos because they are made at the content release, some of then being useless by the time a "cazu" player does the fight. (cazu here being the guy who takes his time, no offence intended)
For example I remember players saying Ozma or the guys before (can't remember his name) was sooooooo damn hard when now it's just rolling your head on your keyboard with our current stuff.
With that in mind, people are not asking for THE strat, but for the relevant one atm cause most of the mechanics can be skipped as we go through the game's updates.

In fact, they may be trying to save some of your time, why waste time and DPS avoiding aoes for example if you can handle them thanks to your stuff and if your healers can handle it too ? Maybe when the fight was released you needed to avoid them but you might not have to do it now and keep DPSing instead

[NargaHuntress]

cant spare 5mins to tells them to dodge this or get away from that? jesus christ where is the downvote button on this forum. This is my 1st real MMO and even i understand communication. i mean when you get into something new and cool do u just look up a guide? maybe ,but i go in blind i love feeling wowed or awed at new content, new mechanics anf LOVE figuring them out. i mean if someone could do a non spoily guide on the fight or w/e ur doing in under 2mins then yeah sure il look at it. but there aren't any so tough titty. be a good sport make someone's day and spend 5mins telling them how to do the fight. or just be like me and say "dodge stuff", "punch stuff", or my favorite "you'll figure it out" idk i just dont mind spending and extra 30 in a dungeon.
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[Riardon]

Because you aren't supposed to do research for a video game. You can't ask for people to do things outside of the game just because you are not willing to explain in your party chat. If you blame those people being lazy for not looking on YouTube videos so you must do for yourself for not explaining in game.

[DynamoAce]

If you reeeally don't want to run into random people who will ask those kind of things because they are new, or tend to play to their own playstyle

Don't use Duty Finder.

[Mysuke]

When i use the DF i expect all type of people, those who look up before a fight or those who are first timers and didn't watch/read a guide. There is no filters for that on Duty Finder so i can't really blame people for that.

Anyway maybe i'm the odd here but if someone asks me about a fight i'll gladly explain, i don't mind communicating with people in a MMO. I actually like when people start talking (not insulting) with each other since 99% of the time people don't even talk at all. I won't generalize or discuss people tastes, some people look up about fights and others will not, all i do is try to be understanding and forgiving with people and try to not break it into rocket science.