If old content is dead , then whats the issue with a jump potion?

[Eoin]

I am a new player and I would hate to see any form of instant levelling service introduced for many reasons....

1) It does not allow me time to experience the many classes and how to best use the skills and abilities of them

2) It does not allow me to experience the tactics needed to do the content

3) I would miss out of years worth of content - just because it may not offer the "best" rewards it does not mean that it is not worthwhile

To me any game is more about the journey than the destination. This game is all about story and to skip the story through a paid levelling service is simply ripping the heart out of it.

[JunseiKei]

Although admittedly you're a very extreme case because most people won't abandon the MSQ to run PotD hundreds of times instead... But yeah, point still stands, MSQ pre-HW needs a serious redesign.

Am I the only one that would ever wonder why they would re-design something that was written to how they wanted it at the time? In it's truest essence, Final Fantasy XIV, while an MMO, is still a story driven game. Why would they ever devote resources to "trim" it? A few of us are already upset that was is story from 1.0 left out on their "summed up" bonus disc release titled The Waning of the Sixth Sun.

While it's an inconvenience at most for most people to do the MSQs, I don't see them going back and re-working old content solely for the sake of time.

[bswpayton]

I am a new player and I would hate to see any form of instant

While I agree with you Eoin what you will see is that , for one the last two dungeons of arr story will be skipped because it is now turned into just a farming for tomes dungeon, also how bad the ques are for the more challenging content, in from level fifthy leading up to hw. I agree I like to do it just to do it but Ive found this game is more about progression than a whole actual game itself, so its impossible to get that feeling that so many others while they were on the journey leading up to where we are now

[Gemina]

I have joined in arguments on the topic of jump potions and at first I was totally agaisnt it. Simply because the whole time I've been playing this game less than prob 4 months I've been told to come to hw. I see it all the time in my four link shells and novice network, if someone even wanted to take 6 months to do the old content they would be considered different. You can hardly even get a reasonable que for old content, don't even try to do an extreme primal or old raid haha good luck. And when I bring it up here are to others I'm always told just come to hw. So what would be the issue with a jump potion then, players don't really care enough about the old content to even make it relevant for newer players. Wt only means lets run this old content unsync so I can met the requirement I have. So the game is about current content and what a jump potion would do is put everyone on the same playing field. Ive been so agaisnt it but the more feedback I get why not?

I've been doing the old content since I started 7-8 months ago. I'm still not at HW, nor do I care to get there quickly. I'll get there when I get there. I've never spent more than 5 minutes in a queue for EX primals, or even HM primals. Story mode dungeon queues and trials are nearly instant, and coils is still ran pretty regularly on my server. I'm sure it isn't anywhere near as frequent as it used to be, but it's not that hard to find people to run it. The longest I've spent in any queue was 30 minutes for Pharos Sirius, but it also probably didn't help that I queued for it at 2 am. So I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

The problem with jump potions is why on Earth would you even subscribe to an MMO if you're not willing to build a character from scratch, and invest the time? Players are already capable of getting to HW quickly. Lord knows I've seen far too many high level sprouts, and we already have too many players 50+ who have no clue how to play their jobs.

If it were up to me, I'd lock content up even more than it is already.

[bswpayton]

I've been doing the old.

Well I have done the same I have spent about 4 months on arr stuff, and I dono what server ur own haha cost most people have agreed with me that the ques for extreme primal
s are horrible, now had mood is a different story those havent been that long. But ifrit , Titan King moogle, those ques are like 30 mins plus, I rem for coil I even filled in all five slots and still didnt get a que. I have taken plenty of time myself I dont feel the need to rush story either but Im not gona act like im the majority our way of thinkin is in the minority, Ive made many post talked to lots of people on my server, when I complain about some of the old content whether its quitters, or just a bad que Im told that content is old do the new stuff, and many other players do exactly that.

[aesteval]

I am a new player and I would hate to see any form of instant levelling service introduced for many reasons....

1) It does not allow me...

2) It does not allow me...

3) I would miss out of years worth of content...

To me any game is more about the journey...

Not everybody has the same time available or desire to experience all old content. Leveling potion: optional - it wouldn't MAKE you use it. It could allow someone to catch up to current content who wants to be able to catch up and isn't interested on all of the old content.

[JCharms]

Am I the only one that would ever wonder why they would re-design something that was written to how they wanted it at the time?

I'll answer this as I just went through it in the last few weeks.
I don't think many people are talking about the 1-50, its the filler in between 2.0 and 2.55, close to 100 missions with no XP/progression.
For people that were at the level cap as all these updates came out 3 months apart over a 15 month period, its cool, something to do, but for new players coming through or people wanting to do another alt, its a daunting task, made worse by the sheer amount of non story related fetch stuff.
Id hate to see the story lost and cut out altogether, but I truly don't believe it would be hard to join quite a few of the relevant story parts together and trim 80% of the filler away for that section of the game.

[Gemina]

Well I have done the same I have spent about 4 months on arr stuff, and I dono what server ur own haha cost most people have agreed with me that the ques for extreme primal
s are horrible, now had mood is a different story those havent been that long. But ifrit , Titan King moogle, those ques are like 30 mins plus, I rem for coil I even filled in all five slots and still didnt get a que. I have taken plenty of time myself I dont feel the need to rush story either but Im not gona act like im the majority our way of thinkin is in the minority, Ive made many post talked to lots of people on my server, when I complain about some of the old content whether its quitters, or just a bad que Im told that content is old do the new stuff, and many other players do exactly that.

I'm on Siren. It's about mid-sized in terms of population. I do admit that I queue up as healer the most, but I still haven't had drastically long queue times as DPS either. The point being is that I don't have much trouble finding groups to run old content. However, this doesn't mean I've been able to take it all in as it comes. With a lot of older content, most players just want to be in and out, which is fine. When I am strong enough to do it unsynced, I go back. I ran Sastasha unsynced the other night, and for the first time ever out of God knows how many runs, I noticed that some of them blood thirsty drunken pirate mobs actually get into fights with each other. It was in one of three rooms I've never been in, and I finally completed 'mapping the realm' for that dungeon.

Trust me, I know the players that enjoy slow and steady progression are among the minority. And I know it is not fair for us to hold speedier players back. I can't even imagine how difficult it must be for the dev team to keep old content relevant while still giving those who prefer rapid progression what they need. But I feel they have have a done a pretty good job with this already. So I look at this potion concept scratching my head and saying, "really?"

Have you considered transferring to another server?

[bswpayton]

I'm on Siren. It's about mid-sized in terms of population. I

I actually love my server and I do have alts also on levitan cant spell hyperain, I have done coil unsync I prefer to do them sync just for the challenge thats whats been hard, but I decided to just keep moving forward, Im almost to hw I really wanted to play drk so I decided to go ahead and move on but Im gona still go back and do all the rest of the 50 extreme primals sync with each class, and do binding coil, and the other 24 man raids, So at the end of the day nobody is gona stop me from goin at my own pace, I just realize that it may take me a while to do all these sync like Im wantin to , and the jump potion would be because alot of people want to do whats relevant, and what everyone else is doing when you always hear thats old its out of date unless u had ur mind set on dong things your way youll just end up doing what others say is best.

[Gemina]

Snip..

I have the same issue. Not only do I want to run things synced, I want to run them at the min iLv and it is difficult to find people wanting to do it. It does take longer that is for sure, but I am already content with doing things at a slower pace. It is how 'I' get the most enjoyment out of the game. I will never do anything that someone else feels is best if it conflicts with my current interests in the game. When I subscribed, several members of my FC were already set and ready to give me high level help to get me to HW asap, and I outright refused each and every one of them.

I honestly just look at it as my own cross to bare. Had I joined the game several years ago, I would have been able to enjoy the content as others have before me, and I can't expect older players to run these things with me the way I would like to do them, but I can appreciate those who do, and they are out there.

I am actually almost done with the things I wanted to do before going to HW. Just have to wrap up a dozen MSQs and finish my zodiac weapon. And after spending 7-8 months in ARR, I am really looking forward to the HW expansion. It's a whole other game really, and not speeding my way there in 4-8 weeks will not only help me appreciate HW even more, it will seriously create some nostalgic pillars for ARR.