i am not mass pull tank

[Talraen]

I'm fine with whatever size pulls, but I wish tanks would be smarter about them. Don't do huge pulls when you're undergeared (especially in leveling content!) and for the love of all that is good do not do large pulls when you have two ninjas in Copperbell Mines (normal). It's like people read "big pulls are better" and have absolutely no idea why. If your party AOE sucks, big pulls are just sacrificing healer DPS for no gain. So... don't do that.

[Neophyte]

Literally 30% faster. So what you're saying is if you do single pulls and it takes 20 minutes... if you mass pull it'll only take 70% of that time (14 minutes). A net savings of 6 minutes.

Well, you know what people think of 6 minutes unnecessarily wasted.
Just think of people not rolling on purpose (which is only 3 minutes) or cooldown reset (Which is, unless a tank invulnerability or benediction was used, only 3 minutes at most as well).

Seems like "it's only x minutes, so just accept it" is not a valid argument for anything.
What makes you the one, who decides that being 6 min slower is ok, but 20 min slower is not? Both could be considered as ok compared with the max. time frame of a dungeon (90 minutes).

[Warghoul570]

Out of everything in this thread, I'm most bothered by the OP blaming it on his ADHD. That's not how ADHD works.

and how exactly would you know?? do you know what its like to have disorders like ADHD??? my guess would be no but you know what I do. I live with ADD everyday of my life. things arent as simple as many of you seem to think. All people seem to want to think about is themselves. Here's a little something for you people to think about. You know those insanely high wait times for dungeons?? Thats a result of your impatience. A lot of us that wanted to tank don't because of your venom and drama. I quit tanking because I got sick of being dumped on my toxic people that think people that can't play their way are scumbags.

[bswpayton]

Big pulls with unknowns prob fail 50 percent of the time so your really just spending more time in the dungeon when you die, I can literally not count the amout of times where a 15 add pull has turned bad before my eyes and death comes swiftly, lets not act like when those tanks that do big pulls every time, sometimes they just end up dyin seen it to many times.

[Kaurie]

and how exactly would you know?? do you know what its like to have disorders like ADHD??? my guess would be no but you know what I do. I live with ADD everyday of my life. things arent as simple as many of you seem to think. All people seem to want to think about is themselves. Here's a little something for you people to think about. You know those insanely high wait times for dungeons?? Thats a result of your impatience. A lot of us that wanted to tank don't because of your venom and drama. I quit tanking because I got sick of being dumped on my toxic people that think people that can't play their way are scumbags.

How do you know what other people are thinking about?
To be frank, it kind of seems like your attitude might be the problem, and not your tanking.

Big pulls with unknowns prob fail 50 percent of the time so your really just spending more time in the dungeon when you die, I can literally not count the amout of times where a 15 add pull has turned bad before my eyes and death comes swiftly, lets not act like when those tanks that do big pulls every time, sometimes they just end up dyin seen it to many times.

Either you're lying, have horrible luck, or are the cause of the problem. I've had a big pull fail once with the new dungeons, and prior to that the last big pull that failed was in Arboretum when it was the main dungeon. That's twice within 4 expert roulette swaps (happens every 15 weeks, so twice within 60 weeks).

And that's the reality, for example in Xepalothl. It's literally 30% faster. At least, because finite ammount of time/ressource restricted actions and CDs not counted in.
[E.g. you can have 2-3 Aetherflow/DWT/deathflare in the first 80-110s max, either on 4 groups (one group won't get hit by a deathflare) or on 2 (you even saved 3 stacks/DWT/etc. for the Boss now)]

Heh, I guess it is 30% faster, but I always tihnk of it as 40% slower. For me, it's about 12 vs 17 minutes (where 12 is 30% faster than 17 and 17 is 42% slower than 12)

[Nora_of_Mira]

The time difference between big pulls and not is pretty small. Differences was 5-7 minutes. If an extra 5 minutes in a dungeon is pure torture, maybe you should play a game you enjoy.

Like someone else pointed out in this thread, its not just a difference of 5-7 minutes to us. It goes from 12-15 minutes of "what we consider fun" (large pulling) into 20-22 minutes of "not having fun". Its not a simple difference of numbers, its a conversion. The extra time wouldn't matter as much if we could still play to our full potential but that's not how the dungeons are designed.

[xbahax92]

You know those insanely high wait times for dungeons?? Thats a result of your impatience. A lot of us that wanted to tank don't because of your venom and drama. I quit tanking because I got sick of being dumped on my toxic people that think people that can't play their way are scumbags.

In my eyes, yes many want to rush things because of their own appointments and less play time. If you have ADHD, then you definetly should take in account to wait for the duty to pop (as dps). But nobody will expect from you to do high dps, which is the good side.
As a tank/heal however you take responsible for keeping the party alive or mainting damage you get from adds/bosses. People are way more ungrateful for tanks/heals who dont know what to do.

All people seem to want to think about is themselves.

So you saying we should always expect someone in a group with ADHD? Its kinda to much to expect in every group we enter to think someone might have ADHD or is disabled. Either you say it by yourself and people bring up enough understanding and patient or they dont. Your way of thinking and putting every player in the same pot, is rude.

[Warghoul570]

Im referencing the general way the community treats others. theres more of a put the person down for a mistake than helping out. granted I know there's those who also get rude when people try to help but I'd rather have someone tell me I missed seeing X or I should try to do Y. I'm the type that is willing to listen. At worst if its something extremely minor and I'm not in the mood to hear it I would not respond but when it comes to dealing with a boss fight if someone has a way they know will work i'll follow their lead

[Pells]

In my eyes, yes many want to rush things because of their own appointments and less play time.

If you're going to miss an appointment because of five minutes in the game, you shouldn't even be in the game to start with.

[StouterTaru]

In a 15 minute run of current Ex dungeons, trash killing takes what, 4-5 minutes total with big pulls? The rest of your time is spent moving through the dungeon and doing boss fights. It's not going to add 5 minutes to the run doing small pulls with the same group; everyone is comparing good group doing big pulls with bad group doing small pulls.