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  1. #61
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    Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. Bypassing the problem makes it worse for everyone else who doesn't want to go through that route.

    I think the devs are doing a good job so far of trying to make older content remain as active as possible (I don't say relevant because it's practically impossible for any MMO to accomplish that), compared to most other MMOs I've played. The very idea of a leveling potion basically spits on that concept.

    If anything, the devs need to redesign the pre-HW MSQ. I've seen some new players hit 55 before they even reach HW, and virtually every new player complains about the wall of fetch quests from the pre-HW Level 50 quests too.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. Bypassing the problem makes it worse for everyone else who doesn't want to go through that route.

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    Ha I have a 60 and havent even been to hw yet , all my other classes are fifty as well but ive been playin about 4 months at this point prob , but really potd just gives mad exp floors 51 and up, i think wt isnt really enough if u want old content to be relevant they are gona have to make spec gear and loot in these places with better rng and thats not gona happen
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Ha I have a 60 and havent even been to hw yet , all my other classes are fifty as well but ive been playin about 4 months at this point prob , but really potd just gives mad exp floors 51 and up, i think wt isnt really enough if u want old content to be relevant they are gona have to make spec gear and loot in these places with better rng and thats not gona happen
    And there we go.

    Although admittedly you're a very extreme case because most people won't abandon the MSQ to run PotD hundreds of times instead... But yeah, point still stands, MSQ pre-HW needs a serious redesign.
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    If content wasn't so linear maybe we wouldn't have this problem?
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    I don't really have anything against a jump potion. Think it's fine. I just worry that they're going to point to it as an excuse to not do anything about the absurd wall that is the ARR MSQ.
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    With a jump potion, you'll get new players.

    Without a jump potion you're asking new players to do all the old content, while everyone else is doing the new shiny stuff.


    Let people jumo if they want, let them choose to skip or not. It won't affect you in any way, not even in dungeon.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
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    Yes, but everyone had to exp and skip/watch cutscene and mainstory, we didn't cry cuz we were lv1... and 1 month (with more time u can do it in 2 week) isn't so much of an efford.. I can understand when there will be much more MSQ and much more level, like not stormblood but next expansion, but now.. people can try to play a bit more and learn that maybe they can appreciate the game even with quest
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    ...Without a jump potion you're asking new players to do all the old content, while everyone else is doing the new shiny stuff...
    As always... Old content for you is new to them so everything is "shiny stuff", and most of old content is still run by most player with daily roulette...

    What they need to do is add more insentive to old player to do old extreme/coil in sync instead of unsync.
    They should up the drop rate (like they do with min level) for some item like poney : something like 10% unsynch, 25% synch, 50-75% (100%?) at min ilevel.

    What I fear with jump potion is seeing "new player" saying there's no content after a month of playing because they did all the "new content" but never touch old content (missing 95% of the content of the game)
    We already have enough person saying there's no content when they only did 25% of the content the game have to offer... Those people don't know that "no content that I like" doesnt' mean "no content".

    I do agre that SE should take the time and ressource to try and cut or put in side quest a fair part of MSQ in ARR. At least cut the "come see here so i can tell you to go there to talk to this guys and then come back here to report" when we all have linkperl to communicate... Just use it !!
    I think MSQ in HW is ok on that part...
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    Le craft, c'est la vie ! || Craft is Life !

  9. #69
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    There has to be a better solution in regards to the older content, perhaps give a lot of experience or something i do not know, but having jump potions how exactly is it good for the community.
    When we already have a community that demands nerf of content consistently, and now having potions like this....
    Not helping the case at all
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  10. #70
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    do you people who want jump potions, would you want it to might at well jump to 70 as soon as the game releases?

    I mean... I can only play like 3 hours every other day. But since my friend plays 16 hours a day. I want to play with him so maybe the expansion should just let me catch up to him. I mean the MSQ is in my way of keeping up. *sarcasm*
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