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  1. #51
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Momita View Post
    PLAY and GET FUN.
    That's the idea - and questing is not fun for everyone.

    Just like not everyone likes chocobo breeding. Not everyone likes collecting triple triad cards, or even play it. Not everyone likes crafting or gathering, big fishing in particular. Not everyone likes checking the weather all the time to complete the sightseeing log. Not everyone likes PvP. Not everyone likes doing hunts. Not everyone likes raiding. Not everyone enjoys treasure hunting.

    See where I'm getting here? There is plenty of content even if the MSQ did not exist at all. And everyone likes different things. So in order to "Get fun" as you say it, some people have to spend hours upon hours doing things they don't enjoy at all - quests. That's exactly the issue why people defend the potion, because those quests are in the way of "play and get fun".
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  2. #52
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I don't get the harm myself, sure some new players will join and be max level of 60 with 1 class or so I recall it being said, so if they wish to play the rest they gotta start at level 1 still. If they wish to play to the best they will get there in time. However even if people choose not to level using those potions they will still get help from us in the form of roulettes for leveling and MSQ and even if not I am sure almost every server has 1 FC willing to help new players either by doing the dungeons sync'd or rushing them through. If they wanna spend money to skip the hassle I say let em. Honestly to me the only reason I see them being so much more enticing is due to new classes being locked behind the story which even rushing and skipping seems to take quite some time.
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  3. #53
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    you know what ive been told even right here on the forums is u dont learn ur job until sixty anyway so the old stuff doesnt matter ha , I just beat ifrit extreme as a tank this week I would try and que up almost every other day got in three times first two times people quit and the last time I cleared it.
    I never mentioned anything about "learning your job". Im saying that people should do instances and dungeons. They should get used to mechanics. Because SE is summing up alot of old mechanics in 1 boss fight. If you want to learn about your job, if you want to get better and improve you should 1. want that by yourself and with full motivation 2. read through guides and rotations 3. ask OTHERS.

    A jump potion wont tell you "how to play your class" and "how to defeat a boss" either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    So i assume you playing the game currently blind?
    No I dont. I'm trying to be patient and trying to stay in a good mood. Our Community should also start to sort their thoughts. Accepting that we have new players, casuals, mid tier and top tier players is one way to go. And I actually hope for that "Hall of Intermediate". Else, I can say - running with friends, is best way to do roulettes, dungeons, trials, primals and whatever our hearts desire.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 11-23-2016 at 11:10 AM.

  4. #54
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    Ichirai's Avatar
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    Limsa (Pirate for life!)
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    Mamoru Ichirai
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    I suppose it could also be different server to server - I'm always seeing shouts for farming ponies and other mats from extreme primals and such that people need for glamouring their gear or choco barding! lol
    Also the cross-server duty finder works for me when I really am in the mood to do some of those dungeons...which is not often (haha)
    What about your FC? should be able to rely on your FC at times like these when you can't get enough support from the rest of the world!
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  5. #55
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    NolLacnala's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Nol Lac'nala
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    I can't wait to find out the new guy who keeps wiping us in our static has only been playing six hours

    Rev up those four and eight statics for all other content, because the 24mans will be the new seventh layer of Heck
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  6. #56
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Old content is not dead. Every time I run leveling roulette it's 70% of the time not first time players. Just people leveling an off job.

    Jump potion is most likely going to happen. It won't bother me. But the on duty will get more toxic and that is what people are afraid of
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  7. #57
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Old content is not dead. Every time I run leveling roulette it's 70% of the time not first time players. Just people leveling an off job.

    Jump potion is most likely going to happen. It won't bother me. But the on duty will get more toxic and that is what people are afraid of
    Tell that to the que of any binding coil, titan extreme, ifrit extreme, and thormarch extreme , when I mean dead I mean doing it the old fashion way for the experience, unsync is pretty much all most people wana do
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  8. #58
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    Ertai Spelldragon
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The issue with the level jump potion with me, is the fact that we lose players for that content. If I want to level instead of spending my money on jump potions, I will have a greater time gap for dungeons and trails that I must complete. I do not want it where jump potions are now the thing that you have to buy or else you will be facing a wall of content you cannot over come due to a lack of players. Yes, you can get friends and FC members to help you, but that does not happen in a lot of cases. Leveling should also be your first experience on how much you will like the game from here on out.

    For a person rolling an alt job, it may also put you at a disadvantage with lack of players who may not be interested or too lazy to level. This will cause a low turnout of players for fates, dungeons, and quests that could help your progression.
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    Last edited by Reaperking386; 11-23-2016 at 01:55 PM.

  9. #59
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Reasons I can think of against.
    1. It cheapens the effort all existing players has put in so far in the game.
    2. It prevents new players from experiencing the game as is originally designed.
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  10. #60
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Reasons I can think of against.
    1. It cheapens the effort all existing players has put in so far in the game.
    2. It prevents new players from experiencing the game as is originally designed.
    Just being behind makes that happen, and being able to run content unsync, nobody is open to learnin the hard way it seems
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