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  1. #181
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    Aneas Corilius
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    The idea is not whether we should pay but rather the amount. The cost for R&D is something a company makes up for by producing a game that people are willing to pay premium price for. SE finds themselves in quite a paradox. The problem began when they defected many thousands still hanging in FF11, to play this game. Like myself i can't return to 11 now, I've moved on. Hence, SE gambled and lost. Since I won't return to 11, they caused their own financial demise in this instance.

    The price now is the negotiating point; YP said the games at 50%, thus in beta. The cost for development will always cost funds, but to simply start charging full price for as someone put "spamming Ifrit" doesn't equate to content is spot on. Money that SE was living high on the hog from 11 caused a division in premium content versus beta development for 14 when people defected to play 14; thus disrupting their revenue stream after a dismal launch of an unfinished product.

    I like where the game is going but I didn't expect the company to show a 2 year plan and then say you'll need to pay full price until that happens, it's ironic at best.

    I am not opposed to paying a fee, but to make players pay for something that is still being developed is folly. I am sorry if SE had to put every resource into making FF14 playable, but whose fault is that?

    Compromise better be in the cards, because not everyone is willing to pay full price for a 100 leves and Ifrit to tide us over until next year. come on SE..... I'm still undecided.

    PS. Yoshi your doing a good job, this isn't your fault. It's the greed of the machine that forces you to look like the bad guy.

    BTW:
    Japanese video game publisher Square Enix has announced that it has brought in revenue of 34.5 billion Yen during the first fiscal quarter of this year, which ended on June 30, a figures that is about one quarter smaller than the one posted for the same period of 2010. (reason: because you defected many of us to play 14 free because you f*** up the launch and many of us wont go back 11.)

    The company also reported a profit of 690 million Yen, which is the equivalent of 8.8 million dollars, a considerable drop of 62 percent when compared to the similar quarter of last year.

    See? $9M profit in one quarter= your not going out of business, you just get 50 Jetskis not 500. 62% drop was their own fault, but this is a 1 quarter profit. Can I say don't be the next Netflix...again?? Tread Lightly greedy peoples...tread lightly......
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  2. #182
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    While the changes thus far are an improvement, I still find myself logging on and instantly being bored. So, no, I will not be paying. And while this thread doesn't show it, I believe that the majority of those who are still "playing" will not pay a sub at this point. The subs should have started back up after 2.0. But that would be common sense and anti-greedy.

    I do look forward to 2.0, but that is a year away, and a lot of things will happen between now and then.

    I expect that they will realize they've made yet another mistake after a couple months and make it free to play again. Except by then people will be playing SW:ToR and GW2, plus all the other triple A games coming out this season.
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    Last edited by Cicatriz; 10-15-2011 at 08:42 AM.

  3. #183
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    I think the only thing SE has to be careful about is the price, as many have said. I'm disheartened that so few people would be willing to pay, because in my eyes, SE has earned it. I'd gladly pay for XIV, because I can tell they know what they're doing and they sure are working hard for it!

    I will mention though... I do not like the "style" of that new UI. Keep it the nice clean look we have now That looks like some hideous WoW thing. Make it go away.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by OranGemeo View Post
    I think the only thing SE has to be careful about is the price, as many have said. I'm disheartened that so few people would be willing to pay, because in my eyes, SE has earned it. I'd gladly pay for XIV, because I can tell they know what they're doing and they sure are working hard for it!

    I will mention though... I do not like the "style" of that new UI. Keep it the nice clean look we have now That looks like some hideous WoW thing. Make it go away.
    Hi Oran! I just want to point something out to you. Please do not take this the wrong way, just another wya of looking at it. The devs are going to make a new game and in my country the sub price will be £10 a month. Now in a month or so the new Elder Scrolls will come out for £39, so by that I am going to pay £120 for this new game they are making. So in my opinion it is best to leave and come back in a year when the non alpha version is realised of the game.
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  5. #185
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    I love the "make people pay" comments. They arent making anyone pay, if you dont think its worth 30-50 pennies a day, dont subscribe. But it seems to me, they kept it free a long time while they worked at fixing it, now things are moving along in the right direction, asking for that small amount a day to keep the entertainment flowing isn't unreasonable.
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  6. #186
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    I still don't think it's ready enough for me to pay a subscription for it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emdub View Post
    Please understand, we love to hear your ideas, but we would like them to be constructive and relevant to the game.
    Formerly Rounnin Tiankeris of Kashuan; reborn as Yongdi Washou of Hyperion.
    May we continue to walk in the light of the crystal and restore Eorzea to its former glory.

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  7. #187
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    This is a flat out BAD business decision. You want more people playing an MMO, not fewer. I think FFXIV might be the only game to ever go from F2P to P2P also...
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    Wada's yearly salary is listed on wikipedia, I just can't feel bad or muster up any energy to feed this poor company any money for a half baked game while the top brass are raking in millions of dollars a year profit.
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  9. #189
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    i might stay for awhile, maybe come and go alot not paying them monthly all the way till lol mid 2013 to see all the changes. but i like alot of what i'm reading and i don't like some. the large scale stuff got me excited but again 2013, so see my money then ...lol

    also what chain said ...f' corporate world, not paying for mistakes.
    i'll play till i feel i can't, really will need way more then they putting out at this point for me to stay month by month and have stuff to do.
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    Last edited by weeble; 10-15-2011 at 09:22 AM.

  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    Wada's yearly salary is listed on wikipedia, I just can't feel bad or muster up any energy to feed this poor company any money for a half baked game while the top brass are raking in millions of dollars a year profit.
    Can you link this? Perhaps that'll put most of the trolls to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emdub View Post
    Please understand, we love to hear your ideas, but we would like them to be constructive and relevant to the game.
    Formerly Rounnin Tiankeris of Kashuan; reborn as Yongdi Washou of Hyperion.
    May we continue to walk in the light of the crystal and restore Eorzea to its former glory.

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/top?cicuid=12044635
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