Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
huh you won't be holding it for long, you will pop zerk after second heavy swing would still get 2FCs in trick and have most of buffs up
Yeah but litany and trick would only last until those first two cleaves, leaving the remaining 7 gcds in your berserk unbuffed, and hypercharge will only last halfway through your berserk. I just took a quick glance at the 5 fastest a12s clears on fflogs, 4 out of the 5 wars pop berserk around their first 3-4 gcds, and only one of them pop berserk after doing 2 combos in unchained (technically one of the 4 wars did a berserk triple cleave opener without unchained though, so we can rule that one out). Popping berserk earlier sacrifices the third cleave, but it won't be completely gone since you'll do it anyway after the berserk window, so it's a loss of 250 potency (excluding maim/eye), but you gain like 4 more berserk'd gcds under litany and trick.

I hope someone can clarify the math here. I was under the impression that holding berserk until after your second combo (third heavy swing) is not worth it if you have drg/nin/mch, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.